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Nintendogamer on 09 March 2011
trestres said:
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trestres said:

How long before a 3DS game tops the chart?

Not looking likely in March, save for the last week, unless DQMJ2 Professional on DS prevents it, as there's Naruto and Baseball games for the 3DS which would be the biggest launches next to the DQ spinoff.

First week of April perhaps? One Piece could be big enough to top the charts.

If it doesn't happen in any of those weeks, unless some games show big legs, I won't expect it to happen until after E3 with Zelda OoT


Zelda isn't that big in Japan so wy would it be on top?


It's very frontloaded and it is big. Unless something bigger releases that week, it has a very big chance. Zelda games open up pretty well there.


But still they fail to reach 1M. Twilight princess didn't have a big opening only like 148K it did.


Big enough to be N°1 for the week if there's nothing else huge released

There will most likely be other titles to stop a 3DS from becoming N°1.



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leatherhat on 09 March 2011
jarrod said:

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Or maybe Sony will buy NIS or something....

Doubt it.  Sony doesn't really seem interested in developing Japanese games anymore.

It was more of a pipe dream really, though I could see them being a good NGP developer.



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FinalEvangelion on 09 March 2011
CGI-Quality said:
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This is a first for a market leader (again, if memory serves me right)

Since when has Wii been Japan's market leader?

Since it's the highest selling console in Japan for the gen? I'm obviously not talking about handheld devices. :S

Japan's market pretty much is handhelds now.  Unlike previous gens, which supported both high selling home consoles (FC, SFC, PS, PS2) and high selling portable consoles (GB, GBA), this gen's gone almost entirely handheld (DS & PSP going strong), with all the consoles being varying degrees of failures.

Calling Wii a "market leader" is borderline deceptive imo.  It's more like a novelty platform that took off for a brief while.  PS3's pretty much been a (very expensive) failure and 360's like an abortion (though still at least an improvement from last gen).

No, it isn't "deceptive" at all. On home console sales in Japan, Wii leads the pack (and by quite a bit), but has dropped the worst over the course of 4.5 years. That's what the point was after. Everything else is either redundant or irrelevant.


Agreed.  You really can't spin it any other way.  The Wii was definitely the market leader for home consoles.  At the beginning of the generation, there was always talk about how many games were announced for HD consoles only because they didn't know when development started how successful the Wii would be.

 

I always imagined the Wii to be a successful, but shorter lived console compared to others.



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trestres on 09 March 2011
Nintendogamer said:
trestres said:
Nintendogamer said:
trestres said:
Nintendogamer said:
trestres said:

How long before a 3DS game tops the chart?

Not looking likely in March, save for the last week, unless DQMJ2 Professional on DS prevents it, as there's Naruto and Baseball games for the 3DS which would be the biggest launches next to the DQ spinoff.

First week of April perhaps? One Piece could be big enough to top the charts.

If it doesn't happen in any of those weeks, unless some games show big legs, I won't expect it to happen until after E3 with Zelda OoT


Zelda isn't that big in Japan so wy would it be on top?


It's very frontloaded and it is big. Unless something bigger releases that week, it has a very big chance. Zelda games open up pretty well there.


But still they fail to reach 1M. Twilight princess didn't have a big opening only like 148K it did.


Big enough to be N°1 for the week if there's nothing else huge released

There will most likely be other titles to stop a 3DS from becoming N°1.


I gotta agree with you. I don't think any 3DS will be first during any week. But I have hope for the 3DS successor.



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jarrod on 09 March 2011
Nintendogamer said:


But still they fail to reach 1M. 

So do like 99% of the games released in Japan.  Zelda's not a million seller anymore, but it's still bigger than most games.  Hell, Twilight Princess has outsold everything on PS3 that doesn't have "Final Fantasy" or "Metal Gear" in the title.  Famitsu numbers...

  • Twilight Princess (Wii) 554,109
  • Phantom Hourglass (DS) 902,386
  • Spirit Tracks (DS) 696,994


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jarrod on 09 March 2011
trestres said:

Pro Baseball Spirits 2011 should top those two also.

Didn't know One Piece was a port, regardless it's the biggest game of that week without a doubt.

Oh, I didn't realize PBS was releasing a week earlier on PSP/PS3 than 3DS.  Good old Konami strikes again. :/

One Piece is a port of the 2 Wii Unlimited Cruise games on a single cart.  The Wii games did near 120k each iirc, I think the 3DS rev is going to do significantly more (like 250k plus lifetime).



jarrod on 09 March 2011

Market leader of a dead market?  Sort of devalues the term "market leader" doesn't it?



NYANKS on 09 March 2011
jarrod said:

Market leader of a dead market?  Sort of devalues the term "market leader" doesn't it?

Hey, we're just stating what is, they are clearly the market leader.  Other things may factor in.  But when a Dragon Quest hits it can be seen.



postofficebuddy on 09 March 2011

Oh honestly that notion is just ridiculous. The home console market isn't dead, it's just more divided. Last gen all consoles combined sold about 30 million, 28 million if you take out Dreamcast. This gen will end not to far behind that.



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jarrod on 09 March 2011
NYANKS said:
jarrod said:

Market leader of a dead market?  Sort of devalues the term "market leader" doesn't it?

Hey, we're just stating what is, they are clearly the market leader.  Other things may factor in.  But when a Dragon Quest hits it can be seen.


No, DS was pretty clearly the market leader of Japan this generation.  Which... was sort of my point.