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pezus said:
Grimes said:

Here it comes, iPad 2 being announced!

Dual Core CPU, 2x faster

9x faster graphics

33% thinner, lighter too


What does that even mean?


According to engadget:

"This thing is insanely fast. We're not joking -- it's blazingly fast. Everything the iPad 2 does feels like it's on turbo. We're uploading a video of the some evidence of this, you'll be appropriately stunned."



Anyone can guess. It takes no effort to throw out lots of predictions and have some of them be correct. You are not and wiser or better for having your guesses be right. Even a blind man can hit the bullseye.

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All in all looks like a good upgrade to the iPad. Theres no reason to expect major changes this round given they go through a tick tock product cycle. It is funny though how Apple are known for large margins on hardware and yet all the iPad competitors thus far that I have seen have been more expensive!



Tease.

Squilliam said:

All in all looks like a good upgrade to the iPad. Theres no reason to expect major changes this round given they go through a tick tock product cycle. It is funny though how Apple are known for large margins on hardware and yet all the iPad competitors thus far that I have seen have been more expensive!


It helps when you have $50 billion in cash and order quantities in the tens of millions. Apple can order on a scale other companies can't match which gives them a huge pricing advantage.



Anyone can guess. It takes no effort to throw out lots of predictions and have some of them be correct. You are not and wiser or better for having your guesses be right. Even a blind man can hit the bullseye.

Grimes said:
Squilliam said:

All in all looks like a good upgrade to the iPad. Theres no reason to expect major changes this round given they go through a tick tock product cycle. It is funny though how Apple are known for large margins on hardware and yet all the iPad competitors thus far that I have seen have been more expensive!


It helps when you have $50 billion in cash and order quantities in the tens of millions. Apple can order on a scale other companies can't match which gives them a huge pricing advantage.

Actually it is because they're taking a console approach.

  • 30% on games.
  • 30% on apps.
  • Advertisement.
  • 30% on content subscriptions.
  • 30% on books.

So they make it up with the money people spent. Given the range of subscriptions people could easily give them on average another $100 in revenue on top of the device itself. Other tablet makers cannot do this because they are selling just the hardware with a third party OS.



Tease.

Squilliam said:
Grimes said:
Squilliam said:

All in all looks like a good upgrade to the iPad. Theres no reason to expect major changes this round given they go through a tick tock product cycle. It is funny though how Apple are known for large margins on hardware and yet all the iPad competitors thus far that I have seen have been more expensive!


It helps when you have $50 billion in cash and order quantities in the tens of millions. Apple can order on a scale other companies can't match which gives them a huge pricing advantage.

Actually it is because they're taking a console approach.

  • 30% on games.
  • 30% on apps.
  • Advertisement.
  • 30% on content subscriptions.
  • 30% on books.

So they make it up with the money people spent. Given the range of subscriptions people could easily give them on average another $100 in revenue on top of the device itself. Other tablet makers cannot do this because they are selling just the hardware with a third party OS.

I'm pretty sure most of their profit still come from hardware sales and carrier subsidies. The content profit is the cherry on top.



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Some things that were missing:

1. MobileMe refresh. Lots of rumours about it going free, or streaming iTunes pruchases, or otherwise making use of Apple's huge data centre which will be going online in the next few months. MobileMe boxes are disappearing off store shelves. Maybe nobody bought it at retail? Maybe it's being saved for the iPhone 5?

2. No more old iPad SKU? Standard Apple M.O. keeps last year's model around for a discount, but not this time. Feels like a lost opportunity to me, as I'm sure a lot of cheapskates would be willing to pay $400 US for a less capable tablet. This opens up room for competitors to sell cheap devices. Perhaps this was necessary to ensure that all component supply could keep a steady flow of iPad 2s rolling out.



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Squilliam said:

All in all looks like a good upgrade to the iPad. Theres no reason to expect major changes this round given they go through a tick tock product cycle. It is funny though how Apple are known for large margins on hardware and yet all the iPad competitors thus far that I have seen have been more expensive!

They're trying to replicate Apple's best feature: their profit margins on every device sold.

Apple reset the standard in tablet PCs and frankly, no other manufacturer seems to be in a great rush to attempt a repeat of the netbook market by undercutting the competition and shaving overall profit margins on that particular sector down to nothing.

It is amusing though that many competing projects, comparitive feature sets aside (as many do have better features in certain areas) make the iPad look like a good deal by comparison.



famousringo said:

2. No more old iPad SKU? Standard Apple M.O. keeps last year's model around for a discount, but not this time. Feels like a lost opportunity to me, as I'm sure a lot of cheapskates would be willing to pay $400 US for a less capable tablet. This opens up room for competitors to sell cheap devices. Perhaps this was necessary to ensure that all component supply could keep a steady flow of iPad 2s rolling out.

The old iPad has been cut to $400 though.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/02/apple-puts-original-ipads-on-sale-now-start-at-399/



Are there games that work on ipad but not iphone?



still can't do flash or silverlight.

no sale for me