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sieanr on 19 December 2007
TheBigFatJ said:
Why set the chart to 156 weeks when 110 will do?

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=All&cons2=PS3&reg2=All&cons3=X360&reg3=All&weeks=110

It's easier to see divergences, especially the tiny divergences between the PS3 and the 360, when you're looking at a tighter chart.

And, as you can see, we're just about to get into Microsoft and Sony's terrible part of the year: January through September.

 The Weekly chart is also interesting as you can see where one console beat out the other during the same time-frame.

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=All&cons2=PS3&reg2=All&cons3=X360&reg3=All&weeks=110&weekly=1 



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ssj12 on 19 December 2007
sieanr said:
leo-j said:
@lenardo

They are above that track just add japan numbers :P

That graph is worldwide sales :P

ssj12 said: they already have surpassed 50% of the Xbox 360's world wide sales so it should start popping it's head above the 360's track within the next few weeks.

I dont think you understand this at all, so I'll use an example.

James is 10 years older than Jill. When James was 11 Jill was 1, or just 9% James age. When James was 20, Jill was 10 - or 50% James age, but still 10 years younger. They will forever remain ten years apart, but Jill will close the "percentage gap" on James. Get it?


umm you answer doesnt work in this case. As long as Sony out sells's the 360's 2nd year sales (since the PS3 is 2 now) it is selling faster then the 360 because it is selling faster then the 360 did. The 360 might sell faster in it's third year but as long as Sony can surpass a curtain sales level then they can manage to top Microsoft's sales output for the same timeframe.

If you look at the graph for the max sales week for the PS3 and compare it to the 360 it shows that at this week the PS3 is only X sales under. What Leo was stating was that the weekly sales from Japan still havent come in so that this week's sales numbers will be closer to what the 360 sold for it's week ie week 57 for both consoles.

The PS3 is only 57 weeks old remember that, the 360 is 107 which means it's beginning it's 3rd year if life well as the PS3 is only in it's 2nd so taking that into account yes the 360 is older and has sold more but it doesnt effect that fact that if the PS3 sells more then the 360 does it can pass the overall sales of the 360 by it's 107th week of life.

Get it?



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kirby007 on 19 December 2007
ssj12 said:
sieanr said:
leo-j said:
@lenardo

They are above that track just add japan numbers :P

That graph is worldwide sales :P

ssj12 said: they already have surpassed 50% of the Xbox 360's world wide sales so it should start popping it's head above the 360's track within the next few weeks.

I dont think you understand this at all, so I'll use an example.

James is 10 years older than Jill. When James was 11 Jill was 1, or just 9% James age. When James was 20, Jill was 10 - or 50% James age, but still 10 years younger. They will forever remain ten years apart, but Jill will close the "percentage gap" on James. Get it?


 umm you answer doesnt work in this case. As long as Sony out sells's the 360's 2nd year sales (since the PS3 is 2 now) it is selling faster then the 360 because it is selling faster then the 360 did. The 360 might sell faster in it's third year but as long as Sony can surpass a curtain sales level then they can manage to top Microsoft's sales output for the same timeframe. 

If you look at the graph for the max sales week for the PS3 and compare it to the 360 it shows that at this week the PS3 is only X sales under. What Leo was stating was that the weekly sales from Japan still havent come in so that this week's sales numbers will be closer to what the 360 sold for it's week ie week 57 for both consoles.

The PS3 is only 57 weeks old remember that, the 360 is 107 which means it's beginning it's 3rd year if life well as the PS3 is only in it's 2nd so taking that into account yes the 360 is older and has sold more but it doesnt effect that fact that if the PS3 sells more then the 360 does it can pass the overall sales of the 360 by it's 107th week of life. 

  

does it matter?

no that is why the year headstart was good for the x360

i mean sold more theoretical is not the same as sold more but sold less

you know what i mean?

 



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kirby007 on 19 December 2007

probably not so :
xbox360 one year headstart
x360 sell year one 10mil,year 2 again 10 mil, year 3 again 10 mil
ps3 sells year one 10 mil, year 2 15 mil
what are total sales? xbox360 : 30 mil
ps3 : 25 mil



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ssj12 on 19 December 2007
kirby007 said:
ssj12 said:
sieanr said:
leo-j said:
@lenardo

They are above that track just add japan numbers :P

That graph is worldwide sales :P

ssj12 said: they already have surpassed 50% of the Xbox 360's world wide sales so it should start popping it's head above the 360's track within the next few weeks.

I dont think you understand this at all, so I'll use an example.

James is 10 years older than Jill. When James was 11 Jill was 1, or just 9% James age. When James was 20, Jill was 10 - or 50% James age, but still 10 years younger. They will forever remain ten years apart, but Jill will close the "percentage gap" on James. Get it?


umm you answer doesnt work in this case. As long as Sony out sells's the 360's 2nd year sales (since the PS3 is 2 now) it is selling faster then the 360 because it is selling faster then the 360 did. The 360 might sell faster in it's third year but as long as Sony can surpass a curtain sales level then they can manage to top Microsoft's sales output for the same timeframe.

If you look at the graph for the max sales week for the PS3 and compare it to the 360 it shows that at this week the PS3 is only X sales under. What Leo was stating was that the weekly sales from Japan still havent come in so that this week's sales numbers will be closer to what the 360 sold for it's week ie week 57 for both consoles.

The PS3 is only 57 weeks old remember that, the 360 is 107 which means it's beginning it's 3rd year if life well as the PS3 is only in it's 2nd so taking that into account yes the 360 is older and has sold more but it doesnt effect that fact that if the PS3 sells more then the 360 does it can pass the overall sales of the 360 by it's 107th week of life.

 

does it matter?

no that is why the year headstart was good for the x360

i mean sold more theoretical is not the same as sold more but sold less

you know what i mean?

 


 It does matter as its massively possible that when the PS3 is 107 weeks old and the 360 is 157 weeks old that Sony could easily be knocking on the 360's world wide sales door or be walking through it. 



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kirby007 on 19 December 2007

look up^ ;) i knew it was comming



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sieanr on 19 December 2007
ssj12 said:
sieanr said:
leo-j said:
@lenardo

They are above that track just add japan numbers :P

That graph is worldwide sales :P

ssj12 said: they already have surpassed 50% of the Xbox 360's world wide sales so it should start popping it's head above the 360's track within the next few weeks.

I dont think you understand this at all, so I'll use an example.

James is 10 years older than Jill. When James was 11 Jill was 1, or just 9% James age. When James was 20, Jill was 10 - or 50% James age, but still 10 years younger. They will forever remain ten years apart, but Jill will close the "percentage gap" on James. Get it?


umm you answer doesnt work in this case. As long as Sony out sells's the 360's 2nd year sales (since the PS3 is 2 now) it is selling faster then the 360 because it is selling faster then the 360 did. The 360 might sell faster in it's third year but as long as Sony can surpass a curtain sales level then they can manage to top Microsoft's sales output for the same timeframe.

If you look at the graph for the max sales week for the PS3 and compare it to the 360 it shows that at this week the PS3 is only X sales under. What Leo was stating was that the weekly sales from Japan still havent come in so that this week's sales numbers will be closer to what the 360 sold for it's week ie week 57 for both consoles.

The PS3 is only 57 weeks old remember that, the 360 is 107 which means it's beginning it's 3rd year if life well as the PS3 is only in it's 2nd so taking that into account yes the 360 is older and has sold more but it doesnt effect that fact that if the PS3 sells more then the 360 does it can pass the overall sales of the 360 by it's 107th week of life.

Get it?

 umm your answer doesn't work in this case. Originally you said that the PS3 broke 50% of the 360, and that because of that it should start tracking ahead of the 360 for the same amount of time. Thats a leap of logic that doesn't work nor make sense, but thanks for trying.

 



Leo-j said: If a dvd for a pc game holds what? Crysis at 3000p or something, why in the world cant a blu-ray disc do the same?

ssj12 said: Player specific decoders are nothing more than specialized GPUs. Gran Turismo is the trust driving simulator of them all. 

"Why do they call it the xbox 360? Because when you see it, you'll turn 360 degrees and walk away" 

rocketpig on 19 December 2007
ssj12 said:
kirby007 said:
ssj12 said:
sieanr said:
leo-j said:
@lenardo

They are above that track just add japan numbers :P

That graph is worldwide sales :P

ssj12 said: they already have surpassed 50% of the Xbox 360's world wide sales so it should start popping it's head above the 360's track within the next few weeks.

I dont think you understand this at all, so I'll use an example.

James is 10 years older than Jill. When James was 11 Jill was 1, or just 9% James age. When James was 20, Jill was 10 - or 50% James age, but still 10 years younger. They will forever remain ten years apart, but Jill will close the "percentage gap" on James. Get it?


umm you answer doesnt work in this case. As long as Sony out sells's the 360's 2nd year sales (since the PS3 is 2 now) it is selling faster then the 360 because it is selling faster then the 360 did. The 360 might sell faster in it's third year but as long as Sony can surpass a curtain sales level then they can manage to top Microsoft's sales output for the same timeframe.

If you look at the graph for the max sales week for the PS3 and compare it to the 360 it shows that at this week the PS3 is only X sales under. What Leo was stating was that the weekly sales from Japan still havent come in so that this week's sales numbers will be closer to what the 360 sold for it's week ie week 57 for both consoles.

The PS3 is only 57 weeks old remember that, the 360 is 107 which means it's beginning it's 3rd year if life well as the PS3 is only in it's 2nd so taking that into account yes the 360 is older and has sold more but it doesnt effect that fact that if the PS3 sells more then the 360 does it can pass the overall sales of the 360 by it's 107th week of life.

 

does it matter?

no that is why the year headstart was good for the x360

i mean sold more theoretical is not the same as sold more but sold less

you know what i mean?

 


It does matter as its massively possible that when the PS3 is 107 weeks old and the 360 is 157 weeks old that Sony could easily be knocking on the 360's world wide sales door or be walking through it.


Yeah, all the PS3 needs to do is start selling 145k more than the 360 per week, starting tomorrow. Entirely possible. The PS3 hasn't even averaged 145k per week in its life thus far, much less 145k more than the 360.

*rolls eyes*




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WEWdeadeye on 19 December 2007

Awww, I was going to help clarify that for ssj12, but you two beat me to the punch. Dang.



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TWRoO on 19 December 2007

sigh.
check this; http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=All&cons2=PS3&reg2=All&cons3=X360&reg3=All&weeks=88

If you want it to be accurate when using the "from launch" feature... keep the number of weeks below 90.... otherwise it only shows every other week, or every third week, which if it happens to miss out the last week or two means it is innacurate.

As there are 2 weeks left that should be higher than average for PS3, it should finish up above the 360s line.