Sonic was classic in 2d but only ever 'meh' once coverted to 3d (with the odd exception).

I think everyone would be happy to see Sonic regain his lofty position with a bunch of solid games. M & S and SSBB will do a lot to restore some lost luster, now if Sega can only capitalize on it. He's got 2 games coming to the Wii in the spring, let's hope they're better than previous recent efforts.

Well I don't quite mean this in a way as an insult to any particular person but my taste's in gaming moved on from simple platforming to more detailed story's and stuff. The first game I ever played on the NES was Final Fantasy, then Zelda, I tried playing Mario and just never got the point, I thought the whole rescue the princess from a Giant Turtle was stupid :/ I never found the magic I suppose.

Then my friend talked about Sonic the hedgehog!!! So I went into the experience with an open mind and learned that I'm a blue hedgehog who's following a platforming path that play's itself most of the time, to get to a fat guy who's in a machine so I can kill him and rescue.... forest animals >_>;;;; Then all my memories of Mario shot back into my head and kinda left a  bad taste in my mouth. It's not an attack at the game, more or less just my taste in games. I really don't get Nintendo or Sega :/

no that's not an opinion but what everyone posted before me is basically what I want to say

 Meh what did you wanted at that time?

A Kamikazekoala who is shooting people and kill the endboss with the final blow KAMIKAZE attack?

^^''

I forgot to mention

Sonic games in the past were about pure speed and now they having you findind stuff and have like 6 extra characters that no one cares about.

So what is it that makes a sonic game good?

It's because the sonic franchise has been constantly attempting to break into the 3d world and no attempt has been successful in capturing what made Sonic FUN.

Basically, the problem stems from the fact that the 3d world is just too complicated to be able to set up in the rollercoaster style paths. the 2d world also allowed you the ability to identify paths much faster since your options were so much more limited.

Really, when it comes down to it, the original 2D sonic worlds were a bunch of slides and ramps, springs and rollercoaster tracks. The only reason it didn't look bad was cause it was a 2D world. 3D makes doing that look awful, but trying to do a non rollercoaster looking world screws up the ability to kick in any real sonic speed to the game.

So basically, the best 3d game for sonic was the original one on the dreamcast, since then it's become a focus for a new character to be introduced and subsequently used and milked for the franchise to every extent possible, when what people really want is Sonic, and fast gameplay. Heck, the first one still ended up with you playing through as like 8 different characters

holy crap, when I started my reply, there were still no replies to this thing, geeze people.

Also, I wonder if Sonic would do better to do the 2.5D that nintendo used for Kirby. 

 QFT

Sonic and the secret rings isn't like that.

the same problems with 3d sonics can be applied to 3d mega man games