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radiantshadow92 on 16 February 2011

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osamanobama on 17 February 2011

already saw the video several hours ago.

i dont really like them because, they always have pre-chosen outcome.

we all know that this will be a tie going into the last round. (and i think move will win)

also we all know move will win the next round to tie it up.

i dont like that every time LP talks about the kinect, he always talks about the prospect of it, want it can potentially do, what he thinks it might do eventually, never what it can and does do.

and again he says move is just a wii HD because it looks and plays similar to the wiimote. i dont get it, does he want them to have a completely random design like a pyramid or an octagon, of course its gonna look similar to the wii, you cant just make a non functional design just to say its different. all motion controller will look a play like that. just like all standard controls look and play similarly. xbox wouldnt just make a giant disk shaped controller, with 3 giant square mesh buttons, just to be different than the Dualshock, of course it looks similar and controlls in a similar fashion.

also if move is nothing new and a wii HD, how come he doesnt make that same claim for the kinect to eyetoy.

both of these products are natural evolutions of existing tech and products. 

kinect plays similarly to eyetoy and MOve plays similarly to wii and eyetoy

edit: i also dont like that he said that move was just made in reponse to the kinect and that he doesnt believe that it was in development before it. all it takes is a quick google search to find out that move demoed on the ps2 in the early 2000's, years before anyone even knew about the wii.

with all the tech detail he goes into, you would think that would be one of the easiest things to find out, i guess i just dont like non backed up biassed opinions



Oblivion86 on 17 February 2011
osamanobama said:

already saw the video several hours ago.

i dont really like them because, they always have pre-chosen outcome.

we all know that this will be a tie going into the last round. (and i think move will win)

also we all know move will win the next round to tie it up.

i dont like that every time LP talks about the kinect, he always talks about the prospect of it, want it can potentially do, what he thinks it might do eventually, never what it can and does do.

and again he says move is just a wii HD because it looks and plays similar to the wiimote. i dont get it, does he want them to have a completely random design like a pyramid or an octagon, of course its gonna look similar to the wii, you cant just make a non functional design just to say its different. all motion controller will look a play like that. just like all standard controls look and play similarly. xbox wouldnt just make a giant disk shaped controller, with 3 giant square mesh buttons, just to be different than the Dualshock, of course it looks similar and controlls in a similar fashion.

also if move is nothing new and a wii HD, how come he doesnt make that same claim for the kinect to eyetoy.

both of these products are natural evolutions of existing tech and products. 

kinect plays similarly to eyetoy and MOve plays similarly to wii and eyetoy

edit: i also dont like that he said that move was just made in reponse to the kinect and that he doesnt believe that it was in development before it. all it takes is a quick google search to find out that move demoed on the ps2 in the early 2000's, years before anyone even knew about the wii.

with all the tech detail he goes into, you would think that would be one of the easiest things to find out, i guess i just dont like non backed up biassed opinions


The bolded show that you have no right to make any claim against the Kinect, the Kinect being compared to the eyetoy is a complete joke. It has nowhere near the technical innovate that the Kinect provides, SO PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP MAKING THIS COMPARISON. I award you no points and may god have mercy on your soul.



radiantshadow92 on 17 February 2011
Oblivion86 said:
osamanobama said:


The bolded show that you have no right to make any claim against the Kinect, the Kinect being compared to the eyetoy is a complete joke. It has nowhere near the technical innovate that the Kinect provides, SO PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP MAKING THIS COMPARISON. I award you no points and may god have mercy on your soul.


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BenVTrigger on 17 February 2011
osamanobama said:

already saw the video several hours ago.

i dont really like them because, they always have pre-chosen outcome.

we all know that this will be a tie going into the last round. (and i think move will win)

also we all know move will win the next round to tie it up.

i dont like that every time LP talks about the kinect, he always talks about the prospect of it, want it can potentially do, what he thinks it might do eventually, never what it can and does do.

and again he says move is just a wii HD because it looks and plays similar to the wiimote. i dont get it, does he want them to have a completely random design like a pyramid or an octagon, of course its gonna look similar to the wii, you cant just make a non functional design just to say its different. all motion controller will look a play like that. just like all standard controls look and play similarly. xbox wouldnt just make a giant disk shaped controller, with 3 giant square mesh buttons, just to be different than the Dualshock, of course it looks similar and controlls in a similar fashion.

also if move is nothing new and a wii HD, how come he doesnt make that same claim for the kinect to eyetoy.

both of these products are natural evolutions of existing tech and products. 

kinect plays similarly to eyetoy and MOve plays similarly to wii and eyetoy

edit: i also dont like that he said that move was just made in reponse to the kinect and that he doesnt believe that it was in development before it. all it takes is a quick google search to find out that move demoed on the ps2 in the early 2000's, years before anyone even knew about the wii.

with all the tech detail he goes into, you would think that would be one of the easiest things to find out, i guess i just dont like non backed up biassed opinions

coming from someone who has both, the Kinect plays absolutley nothing like the eyetoy.  They aren't even comparable other than both have a camera.



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ssj12 on 17 February 2011
Oblivion86 said:
osamanobama said:

already saw the video several hours ago.

i dont really like them because, they always have pre-chosen outcome.

we all know that this will be a tie going into the last round. (and i think move will win)

also we all know move will win the next round to tie it up.

i dont like that every time LP talks about the kinect, he always talks about the prospect of it, want it can potentially do, what he thinks it might do eventually, never what it can and does do.

and again he says move is just a wii HD because it looks and plays similar to the wiimote. i dont get it, does he want them to have a completely random design like a pyramid or an octagon, of course its gonna look similar to the wii, you cant just make a non functional design just to say its different. all motion controller will look a play like that. just like all standard controls look and play similarly. xbox wouldnt just make a giant disk shaped controller, with 3 giant square mesh buttons, just to be different than the Dualshock, of course it looks similar and controlls in a similar fashion.

also if move is nothing new and a wii HD, how come he doesnt make that same claim for the kinect to eyetoy.

both of these products are natural evolutions of existing tech and products. 

kinect plays similarly to eyetoy and MOve plays similarly to wii and eyetoy

edit: i also dont like that he said that move was just made in reponse to the kinect and that he doesnt believe that it was in development before it. all it takes is a quick google search to find out that move demoed on the ps2 in the early 2000's, years before anyone even knew about the wii.

with all the tech detail he goes into, you would think that would be one of the easiest things to find out, i guess i just dont like non backed up biassed opinions


The bolded show that you have no right to make any claim against the Kinect, the Kinect being compared to the eyetoy is a complete joke. It has nowhere near the technical innovate that the Kinect provides, SO PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP MAKING THIS COMPARISON. I award you no points and may god have mercy on your soul.


The EyeToy does motion gaming quite well. Its also older tech, but it functions similarly. It tracks motion, just with one camera versus three with specialized sensors that would have cost way more then the PS3 when it was released. It was an innovation when it was released. No matter how you look at it the EyeToy and PSEye are the Kinect's grandfather and father respectfully. If you truly think it don't takes older tech and improves upon it then dear god the Xbox 360 must be space-age technology stolen from aliens from Area 51 because computer hardware just can't improve so much over four years..



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Doobie_wop on 17 February 2011
BenVTrigger said:
osamanobama said:

already saw the video several hours ago.

i dont really like them because, they always have pre-chosen outcome.

we all know that this will be a tie going into the last round. (and i think move will win)

also we all know move will win the next round to tie it up.

i dont like that every time LP talks about the kinect, he always talks about the prospect of it, want it can potentially do, what he thinks it might do eventually, never what it can and does do.

and again he says move is just a wii HD because it looks and plays similar to the wiimote. i dont get it, does he want them to have a completely random design like a pyramid or an octagon, of course its gonna look similar to the wii, you cant just make a non functional design just to say its different. all motion controller will look a play like that. just like all standard controls look and play similarly. xbox wouldnt just make a giant disk shaped controller, with 3 giant square mesh buttons, just to be different than the Dualshock, of course it looks similar and controlls in a similar fashion.

also if move is nothing new and a wii HD, how come he doesnt make that same claim for the kinect to eyetoy.

both of these products are natural evolutions of existing tech and products. 

kinect plays similarly to eyetoy and MOve plays similarly to wii and eyetoy

edit: i also dont like that he said that move was just made in reponse to the kinect and that he doesnt believe that it was in development before it. all it takes is a quick google search to find out that move demoed on the ps2 in the early 2000's, years before anyone even knew about the wii.

with all the tech detail he goes into, you would think that would be one of the easiest things to find out, i guess i just dont like non backed up biassed opinions

coming from someone who has both, the Kinect plays absolutley nothing like the eyetoy.  They aren't even comparable other than both have a camera.

With an eyetoy, you move around in front of a camera to interact with the onscreen game. With the Kinect, you move around in front of the camera to interact with the onscreen game. I'm not seeing the major differences. I've gotten into this debate before and no one could ever come up with a clear argument as to why they are so vastly different. The best they could come up with is that it has a higher fidelity and depth or whatever, but the same could be said for the Move compared to the Wiimote.

OT: These competitions are silly, they are only used to spur the fanboy fire so that their comments section can go on for like 20 pages with people yelling out racist remarks and making insults to each others mothers. Kinect should win just out of the sheer effort that Microsoft has put into the device though ( even if I don't think any of the games are good) and it does seem to have a brighter future on the software front.



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radiantshadow92 on 17 February 2011
Doobie_wop said:
BenVTrigger said:
osamanobama said:

already saw the video several hours ago.

i dont really like them because, they always have pre-chosen outcome.

we all know that this will be a tie going into the last round. (and i think move will win)

also we all know move will win the next round to tie it up.

i dont like that every time LP talks about the kinect, he always talks about the prospect of it, want it can potentially do, what he thinks it might do eventually, never what it can and does do.

and again he says move is just a wii HD because it looks and plays similar to the wiimote. i dont get it, does he want them to have a completely random design like a pyramid or an octagon, of course its gonna look similar to the wii, you cant just make a non functional design just to say its different. all motion controller will look a play like that. just like all standard controls look and play similarly. xbox wouldnt just make a giant disk shaped controller, with 3 giant square mesh buttons, just to be different than the Dualshock, of course it looks similar and controlls in a similar fashion.

also if move is nothing new and a wii HD, how come he doesnt make that same claim for the kinect to eyetoy.

both of these products are natural evolutions of existing tech and products. 

kinect plays similarly to eyetoy and MOve plays similarly to wii and eyetoy

edit: i also dont like that he said that move was just made in reponse to the kinect and that he doesnt believe that it was in development before it. all it takes is a quick google search to find out that move demoed on the ps2 in the early 2000's, years before anyone even knew about the wii.

with all the tech detail he goes into, you would think that would be one of the easiest things to find out, i guess i just dont like non backed up biassed opinions

coming from someone who has both, the Kinect plays absolutley nothing like the eyetoy.  They aren't even comparable other than both have a camera.

With an eyetoy, you move around in front of a camera to interact with the onscreen game. With the Kinect, you move around in front of the camera to interact with the onscreen game. I'm not seeing the major differences. I've gotten into this debate before and no one could ever come up with a clear argument as to why they are so vastly different. The best they could come up with is that it has a higher fidelity and depth or whatever, but the same could be said for the Move compared to the Wiimote.

OT: These competitions are silly, they are only used to spur the fanboy fire so that their comments section can go on for like 20 pages with people yelling out racist remarks and making insults to each others mothers. Kinect should win just out of the sheer effort that Microsoft has put into the device though ( even if I don't think any of the games are good) and it does seem to have a brighter future on the software front.

But its fun =p

bah i need a life lol



binary solo on 17 February 2011

The interesting thing not mentioned about the PSEye in the Motion Wars is that it too has microphones (as did the Eyetoy). I believe PSEye as 2 mics? So while the comparison mentions the potential of Kinect for video chat and voice recognition, it fails to mention that PSEye can do the same, especially video chat.

Basically from a practical functionality perspective (though not a technological perspective) Kinect is 2 PSEyes duct taped together. Or rather 2 PSEyes duct taped about 15 CM apart. 2 PSEyes set up with optimal distance between them can effectively do 3D motion detection, and directional sound detection with functionally the same outcome for most practical gaming applications as Kinect. The question would be whether the PS3 has the processing power to deal with 2 incoming images to resolve into 3D motion control as well as do all the other processing for a game. Kinect has some built in processing meaning less of a drain on the 360's CPU.

I think, because Kinect has really captured America's attention, Sony is going to have to do a binocular PSEye at some point to provide full body 3D motion tracking.



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AussieGecko on 17 February 2011
osamanobama said:
troll troll troll

I reported you for the above, its getting annoying reading the same shit from you post after post. If you arent speaking about move, kinect or 360 in a derogatory way you arent posting.

Stop it, it is getting annoying



 

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