Even if people play offline, some games comes with firmware updaes on discs, so realy even only playing offline your not getting a great exprience........and for what? so you can have a slow version of linux on your ps3 and play some old snes games via an emulator? great way to waste £255.

And too the people saying "oh its my property ill do what i want with it"  course you can mod your ps3 "visually" all you want,add as many flashy LED'S on it and art work, but the software it runs on is a licenced product of Sony....

You can't just do what you want to your property when there are laws in place.

take for example your own land, you can't build a giant shed in your garden, unless you get the planning permision, just imgine crying to the council say " its my property.... ill do what i want with it".......so then you wait a few weeks and build it anyway, then your shed gets found out by the council because a neighbour has grassed you in, then the council take action..., then you get asked to remove it, if you fail to complie they will see you in court, and when your in court, tell the judge "its my property ill do what i want with it" and see how far it gets you.

1. Like it's been said before. New firmware updates are cracked in days, sometimes hours of release.

2. The PS3 is the only console that I can think of that has less features now then when it was released.

3. A lot of consumers paid for the ability to use Linux, play games, and go online. What rights does Sony have to take that away from consumers?

I usually only play online one month in a whole year on both consoles, and that is typically call of duty month. 

PSN is a free service with a contract agreement.

You're going to have a hard time finding a judge that will say that a company can not stop providing a free service when people breach said agreement...

1) So you'd have to stop playing the game you have just bought and wait for a hacker to release a patch to bypass the update.

2) is that for real? i did'nt have vidzone, quirocity, bbci player, 4OD, ITV player, mubi, love film, Psn vid store, or home when i first bought my ps3

3) I'd say about 1% of ps3 owners bought it for linux, No one batted an eye lid when it was removed with the slim design in 2009........because no one cared, Sony removed it because it seemed an easy access for people to hack the ps3.........why you making out sony to be the bad guy? the question you  should be asking is what right did hackers have to mess with Son'y system and get linux removed for the rest of us? and by the rest of us , i mean the 1% that actually cared, If the hackers would have left it alone, we'd still have linux on all the old models.

Too right, Sony should have just caught them with there pants down, would have been even sweeter

1. Woah woah woah!?! Are you seriously saying that Sony has managed to update the firmware on the disc while you are playing it offline?! If not I fail to see what this has to do with our conversation...

2. Are those part of the PS3? Or part of the PSN network aka not actually features on the console itself?

3. Are you really blaming Geohot for that, really? Geohot made the tiniest little progress in a hack that not even the whole PS3 population could of taken advantage of.  Guess what? :o Had they just left him alone he probably would have hit a brickwall(Which he did!!) and then given up(Which he did!!), but no, they removed the only thing that was preventing 0verflow from hacking the console... Great job Sony!

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Back to my point... Sony was dumping money into continually updating the hypervisor to be comaptible with the newer firmware updates. What a better way to get rid of the feature then to just blame it on the pirates...

3.5. So what if only 1% cared about the Linux capabilities? How are their feelings any less relevant then the rest of ours? They paid for the console just like you and I... They deserve to get what was promised for them

Heck, they were lied to by Sony a couple of weeks before they were raped...

Never have I used Linux on the PS3 and I likely won't, but I paid for the ability to have it, and play games, and go on PSN.

From the wait he wrote it I assumed that he meant the original removal of OtherOS where your options were to not update, and lose access to PSN or update and lose access.

So, yes, people lost access to PSN who didn't breach their contract

There still features on the Ps3 that you get for free on the xmb, unless you of course never go online then.......oh wait yeah hackers won't get that, so guess your right, Hackers are getting even less, I hope the little turds enjoy playing games like call of duty offline, i Hope they enjoy playing games like fallout minus the patches in a bug fest and that they enjoy there games without there dlc, all so they can have linux....... and play emulated games from the early 90's, I hope they Don't like trophies or having a friends list or playing/chatting to buddies . I never said anything about geohotz but whats the heck, yes if the idiot kept his beak out, and hadnt posted all over the internet that he's nearly hacked the ps3 through the other OS..... then yes, it would still be hear today, Sony had every right to remove the feature to protect the system.

It's my money, and I want it NOW!!!...this reminded me of those commercials, lol.