Do people really believe that the size is a deterrent or do they simply not know how torrent downloads work? All you have to do is leave the PC on and go to sleep. WHen you come back from work the next day, it should be done. Why would this be too much for folks who took the time to implement the hack in the first place?

yes, to some people, size of download is an issue. piracy is most rampant in poorer countries/thrid world countries where games are expensive as shit.

for example, here where I live, internet is so slow that i could just cry. faster connections is too expensive and the only affordable internet connections here has an average speed of 15-30kb/s. feels like i'm on a 56k dial-up modem.

so, to all those saying that file size doesn't matter, i say, you dont know anything and please just stop sprouting nonesense. not everyone has a 800 and up kb/s connection.

hell my average transfer rate is 20kb/s. which means i cant play online and when donwloading updates from psn, it takes me about 1 day just to downlaod 150mb

the good news for thoese who live on piracy is that there are people who actually sell downloaded games... for example this...

this is from a buy and sell site that focuses on PCs and stuff..conversion rate is around P43 per us dollar, so the P299 is about $7 US

the bad news is ps3 piracy here is spreading like wildfire. and there are more and more people and places that offer to hack your ps3 for you with free "games"...

Off Topic: I jsut bought sprots championshipn move bundle and re5 gold editon. sports championship is fun as hell, re5 not so much with move. now if i can only afford a second move controller (maybe after 6 months of saving or something...)

Wait, does this require the homebrew/hack that we all were discussing and defenders of such things claimed it was only for "homebrew" apps and that hackers are very respectable characters only interested in the challenge and accomplishment and not interested in illegally stealing from people in the industry?

And to the guy who early on said "sony fans" didnt give a shit when the wii or Xbox were hacked, piracy is piracy, if i cared enough "SEE OWNED" the consoles you mentioned id venture to those forums and most likely post my thoughts, however, since i dont own those consoles, and generally have little to interest in those forums as a "sony fan" I dont go there aside from interesting topics on the main page.

Also, if im not mistaken these hacks occured a long time ago and the userbase on this site probably wasnt even remotely similar so youre essentially calling people out in the current time for the actions (or inaction in this case) of people who arent even the same.

Things is, if thats the case, it still isn't a deterrent. Why? I'm willing to bet that there are people who will sell the dl on a disc for real cheap. heard of that happening in China...don't see why it wont happen elsewhere. Basically, what I'm trying to say is: people who want to pirate WILL PIRATE. These lame workarounds are just lame.

Again I never said 800KB/s is normal speed that everyone on the planet should have.

Still those who cannot afford this kind of "high-speed" internet also don't represent that much of the total userbase. So 800KB/s, which should be nothing astounding among most of the userbase, is in the normal range, thus making file size not a big issue.

And as you and Pristine already mentioned, there are ways to get a pirated copy without downloading it.

@Pristine - yes, yes there are people who do sell these illigaly downloaded games as seen in the link i showed...

@Barozi - i suppose file size is relative. depends greatly on what region or type of country you live in as well as your social/economic standing.

On a side note, 1 download here, if ps2,  xbox360 and wii piracy is something to go by, is equal to a few hundred pirated copies sold. but then again, most of the pirated dvds sold here comes from china i think...

Its going to be on sale on Friday here in Greece..atleast this is when I'll get my copy

It depends, if the uploader is on a huge upload connection then you get it very fast.  Alternatively if lots of people are downloading off one uploader it is slow to begin but as more and more parts propogate across all the downloaders those leechers become uploaders too vastly increasing the speed.  A torrent such as the Killzone 3 one would probably be slow for the first few days then have a few weeks where you could probably pull your connections theoretically maximum (assuming you're not on a 100Mb line).  I think I answered your question but yes torrents are P2P.

The fact that they're P2P does mean though that they're not anonymous so your IP and hence yourself can be implicated as having downloaded that torrent.  A torrent that size would take me about a week to download which might be worth it if I was desperate to play the game early, but I aren't and haven't hacked my PS3 as there is nothing much I really want on the homebrew scene happening yet.

I would add that this will be on newsgroups too though which give you far better speed and privacy so shutting down torrents is pointless once it's out there.  I really don't think this will be downloaded that much though and certainly it wouldn't affect sales imo.