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theprof00 said:

You have not thought this through.

If it is true, then whoever has the power to fix it will fix it, and if he's the doc, then he's fucked either way.

If it is false, and he doesn't tell us then scum will waste a night kill.

If it is false, and they know, they will take out a much stronger player.

This game really should've been ninja themed.

Why does it seem like you're confirming that ABC is a townie?

If it is false because he's scum(and there's no counterclaim) then he won't die, and we'll still be suspicious of him tomorrow. This case is the same as if he's scum and makes no claim. I'm personally fine with that though because as I said it makes no difference to me what he claims.

Whether true or false, if there is a counterclaim it opens a whole 'nother can of worms. This is where experience comes into play. Is it worth possibly losing a power role day/night one for one scum? I think it may be, but I'm not certain either.



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Linkzmax said:
theprof00 said:

You have not thought this through.

If it is true, then whoever has the power to fix it will fix it, and if he's the doc, then he's fucked either way.

If it is false, and he doesn't tell us then scum will waste a night kill.

If it is false, and they know, they will take out a much stronger player.

This game really should've been ninja themed.

Why does it seem like you're confirming that ABC is a townie?

If it is false because he's scum(and there's no counterclaim) then he won't die, and we'll still be suspicious of him tomorrow. This case is the same as if he's scum and makes no claim. I'm personally fine with that though because as I said it makes no difference to me what he claims.

Whether true or false, if there is a counterclaim it opens a whole 'nother can of worms. This is where experience comes into play. Is it worth possibly losing a power role day/night one for one scum? I think it may be, but I'm not certain either.

Look at ABC's reasoning. "If I vote Heph, one of his buddies will vote me, kill me, go to night, killing two good roles with one stone." 2 GOOD ROLES. He meant 2 townies; "GOOD" as in "on the good side". Otherwise, he thinks everyone has a power role, and there's just no chance that he thinks that and he hasn't mentioned anything to that extent the entire game. Not only that, but he never claimed even when he almost reached -1.

Not only that, but he thinks mafia is willing to sacrifice two or more players just to get two townies!

We just lost an incredible advantage  :|



I'm still not entirely convinced. But if you're right then I hope there is a doc that chooses wisely or the scumteam isn't as ballsy as in last round.



Oh, is that what you guys were talking about? 



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Current votes (6 needed to lynch):

[1, L-5] Linkzmax:  (theprof00); (Stefl1504); Hephaestos

[0, L-6] Stefl1504:  (noname2200)

[0, L-6] noname2200: (theprof00)

[0, L-6] theprof00: (Stefl1504)

[0, L-6] trashleg: (Hephaestos)

[3, L-3] A Bad Clown: (noname2200); (Final-Fan); trashleg; radishhead; theRepublic

[0, L-6]  theRepublic: (Final-Fan)

[1, L-5] Wonktonodi: Hephaestos

[2, L-4] Hephaestos: Wonktonodi; (Linkzmax); A Bad Clown



updated: 14.01.2012

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Linkzmax said:
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3918449

Working on my posts.  I hope to not flood the wall with them and will do my best to keep things clear concise and free of stupid errors.

 I believe I covered part of this in my "one post in over a 24 hour period"  http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3919700 However I'll go at the points in order and with more detail.

1. I was satisfied with the answer over his prof statement because.  It gave an explanation for that.  Feeling satisfied with that I didn't look at much into the details of his answer because, they are so hard to follow some times. I have asked a few questions one was just to clarify a post he had made before going robot.  I probably could have done more but won't deny I've not felt as motivated to.  So currently I'm not looking at his older posts (any before the post in the link) with the possible exception of iterations with theprof.  Although more on thepofs end than his since I did commit to doing this and haven't yet.

2. I'm not sure how those numbers would work.  With a no lynch there would be more more possible person for the doc to protect (if there is one) so unless it was scum hit the first day in the random lynch the doc's odds of picking the same as the scum would improve.  However I will avoid any more math discussions till after the game.

3. Correct that was a typo.  I did find hephs vote for the time limit more suspicious than trash's.  However that doesn't mean hers isn't just that I don't view them quite the same way. 

4. I don't see the point of most of this.  Yes I get that you find me suspicious and you have brought up reasons.  However going to say you would HOS instead of a finger (you have latter changed this when you voted Heph although I wonder if you got a third hand in the unvote)  My biggest problem with this though is you bring up that I did something very scummy but refuse to actually present the evidence.  If you aren't going to bring up the evidence I don't think you should mention the suspicion either.  It just seems like you want someone else to come up with something that I did. 

Note I find this different from what I've done because I mention the evidence then ask for thoughts or opinions. 



noname2200 said:
Wonktonodi said:


and exageration is a trillion times worse than understatement :P

It's barely an exaggeration, though.  Seriously, last round really sucked to mod...

That was a joke.  Also I don't think I really did thank you for modding last round.  If anything somethings I've said may have sound ungreatful.  None the less thank you for all you did. 



noname2200 said:

From here, I'm going to need you guys to fill in more blanks for me, since I haven't been part of the following discussion and thus am not as familiar with it.

-Suspicions on heph:  Possible buddying with trash, and has jumped in unsolicited to defend trash from prof's interrogation.  Requested a time limit once attention started to fall on him and trash.  Trash did something similar around that time.   Possible buddying with ABC as well.  Voted to lynch wonk partly based on his suspicions of radish.

-Suspicions on trash:  Possible buddying with heph.  Has written that she hates being the focus of attention, and that she would soil herself if she thought she was acting suspicious.

I will fill in more on this but after I have responded to other things. 



Linkzmax said:
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3919375

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3919889


I had as I mentioned thought something like strong scum team. However that didn't seem right.  Also thought that he could try the tactict of latter trying to say he has a role that is odd or unsusual.  Although this game we would be more likely to go after someone who hints at roleclaims, it could still do some damage. 

Now I'm thinking that he used it to deflect discussion from other things.  I see he used with you something he used with me. Just insluting and isregarding points.  I find it scummy to do so and not to talk them out.  That was the big reason I had voted for him in the first place.  

I'm a bit disapointed that you have taken your vote off him.



Hephaestos said:


when did i ever defend you as mafia?

1.where did i insult you? you mean making fun of your failed logic? i'm sorry ot hurts your feelings but your points are so far from the construction you used us to.

in fact, you remind me of myself, the only time i ever was mafia on day one. i had to be convinced by nordlead to vote radish cause i was tangeant, much like your exchange with proff earlier. Evidently in the present case he didn't have a vote on me as his logic prevented him from doing that early association to my lynch, only problem for you is that he would have had legitimacy in voting me erroneously, you on the other hand only provided proof from your immagination.

heck i'll make a point.

Unvote

Vote Linkz

for being unable to build a case when playing as scum (that or this is gonna make me lol for a long while

Linkzmax said:

I'm not going to be duped again.

(for future reference, Wonk is still definitely scum, his lowered activity since i began getting heat is further sign of this... that or he let the praise he got go to his head this round).


Well I got to say you've gotten me to lol back with the bolded.

The big issue that I've had with you before that I still have with you know is how you dismiss other people points.  Not discussing them just dismissing them and saying failed logic.  When I called you out on that the first time you moved to calling things irrelavent. 

I'm now quite confident you are scum.  I'm thinking linkz is as well but isn't going to push a lynch because he wants to find more day one. 

Not only this but you are now thrownig around pass game reference left and right. 

Finnaly having a life is not the same as lowered activity.  I'm still pushing to lynch you and will continue to do so.