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Hephaestos said:
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3916577 and http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3916303

that made me lol thanks.

1. your other points are irrelevant,  even if he were the worst player in the world, 2. you didn't even adress the fact that a no lynch could gain a day even with an odd player count setup.

3. also don't let the mvp thrown arround get to your head, that's a tactic to put me in the crosshairs, in fact I got MVP for 1) winning as SK my first round (easy no one knew my playstyle), 2) wrecking the game mechanics of the DBZ game, in effect gaining advantage by finding 2 scums with calculations... roleblocked the said scum on 2 kill attempts, 3) taking advantage of Radish defending himself to appear active and focused during a round. ->All this means is that I can take advantage of my environement, but definitely not that I can pull out grandiose tricks like the mafia last round or stefl a few rounds ago with his thrid day cop claim. In effect, I never created my wins, I just only managed to hold on to them.

1. First it was illogical.  When I point out that there is logic to it you know try and say irrelevant.  Changing the argument to suit your needs and not answering questions.  You aren't answering the questions then shifiting the argument to make it seem like you are.

2. Heph because that chance is rare.  More rare than the chance that lynching a random weak player would be scum.  There are always possiblities.  There could be a doc or a driver or some alien tech to raise the dead.  However I'll stick with what I know and not base my plans on asuming the make ups of the game.

3. I won't let them go to my head but I do expect out of you at least as much as I can do, but probably a whole lot more.

I'm not satisfied with your answers however I do want to read the rest of the posts again before voting.



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trashleg said:

also can everyone please stop referring to old games.

 

we're in this one, now.

 

kthx


I'm trying.  I know how frustrating it is you should have seen how I felt about it the last two games... lol sorry

Honestly though I will do better and hope other players can as well. 



Hephaestos said:


I do agree that odd numbers warrant a lynch... but not one of someone likely to be town. My argumentation was on this.

A likely suspect is better than no lynch at odd numbers, this I agree with.

However the best day to no lynch is always the first day:

_ less info, other days should definitely have more serious suspects.

_ less random chance of hitting scum (unless they suck and all get caught in the first few days..)

On day one all information that would make someone think that someen is scum is much more subjective than future days.  Mistakes connectionns contradictions lies (if you can prove it) can just as easily come from town as from scum.  So what criteria do you use to determine who should be lynched that is so much better than the criteria that I would use? 

Also answer my previous question of why you didn't mention my other points.  Then explain why you change your mind and decide that they were irrelavent?  Then finally explain how my idea for a first day lynch is any different from yours.  Other than mine being coldhearted and mean.



Hephaestos said:
theRepublic said:
Hephaestos said:

o recall both massons and mafia being told they could talk day one last round... trucks was a masson, he might have liked the idea. Especially as this little advantage could help tweak the game to a 2 mafia other day SK rather than just 3 mafia?

Well I did think it was wierd when I read it in the quicktopics but now I wouldn't rule it out...

They were allowed a single "I'm here" type of post as Day One started.  That was it.  I see that the way I worded that post looks funny, but if you look at the timestamps, you see that there really wasn't any discusion during the Day.

That is an interesting theory that you think Trucks let them talk during Day One this game, but I think it is highly unlikely.

then it was.

and yes it is an unlikely theory, but i can see trucks trying to find ways to add spice without changing too much from vanilla, if not in this way, then in an other.


I think this could be a possible slip.  I have some ideas but I would like to hear other peoples thoughts first.  No Heph not you.  shoo



Hephaestos said:
theprof00 said:

I'm going to leave the two of you alone for now, but if either of you are mafia, so help me god, I'm never playing on here again.

seems i bullied the bully.... maybe you do see the point a bit now? hamering someone till they break is part of your style, but i believe you've done it with less subtility thes past 2 rounds... this may indeed be due to your short shelf life as you pointed... this round i read it as scummy because it's also more freely distributed.

 

well in any case, looking at your past few posts, i'm sorry if i hurt your feelings or exasperated you in some way ^^


I was hoping the reverse would happen I was hoping the prof would focus on you.  In fact

@prof could you bully heph please or at least ask him tough questions and not give up till you get some answers.



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trashleg said:   


Just ignore prof the next few times you come online.  Would like to see your thoughts on other things.  Even if nothing else gets your vote your thoughts are more important than changing your vote.



theprof00 said:


stop worring about trashlegs for a bit next time you are on and use your skills to get answeres out of other people.  Preferable heph since he's not being "cooperative"

also(sorry trashlegs it's about older games)

you said in the last 3 games you were day 1 day 2 day 1.  Last game was Day 2.  They killed heph day 1.  Two games ago we killed you day 1.  So was it day 1 three games ago as well?  If so I'm sorry that would have been two in a row that you were out on day one.  And why put it 1 2 1 when it would be 112 you know this is very important since it has to do with numbers an no one ever gets numbers wrong unless they are scum and trying to hide something or are unreliable and should be disposed of :P  

 

There is no seriousness in the previous paragraph just some satire and curiousity.  If I had suspicion of prof I'd say so.



Since I wasn't satisfied with Heph's answers and in fact found his reasoning to be lacking while I know he has very good reasoning skills. I'm left with one choice.  Happy Valentine's Day Hephaestos <3   :~D   Yes it's still Monday here.  :P

Vote: Heph



radishhead said:


Radish.  I'm done with it. Your past behaviour will haunght you in my posts no more. I'm neutral on you and have someone more dangourus to the town as a back up.

One thing to let you know though.  Day one is still a day to play and do things.  Look at poor prof who often is night killed and rarely gets to see past day 1.  He still posts makes good points (although I think he might be loosing it a bit :P so maybe not the best example)  Please continue go out there find scum (or not depending) learn from mistakes and most importantly have fun. 



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A Bad Clown said:

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I know that like heph (may everyone vote for him) I myself have it when the internet is opened on my computer it opens VGcharts so you being "on 7 hours ago" doesn't really mean you were on.  However I do hope to hear from you soon.  Thanks oh an sorry for no valentines wishes only room in my cold heart for heph :P