stop picking apart something so trivial.

i was talking to EVERYONE. i meant "dont let what i've just said about my personal life detract from the game"

which, by the way, you keep coming back to.

and re: the other games. i wasnt in them. i dont care about them. i dont care for references to playstyles because i've always found that playstyle mostly changes to suit the game. we're not playing those old games, we're playing this one.

and if you're too drunk to think coherently maybe you should go sleep til you sober up?

As for my vote at the moment currently I'm waiting on heph's responce because depending on how that goes my vote might be on him.  He needs a pretty good explanation as to why his explanation for my argument being illogical only covers one of the many points.  Because I'd have a hard time seeing him reading the thread and missing other points I've made several times.  So if that means he was intentionally leaving them out to make his own point.  It doesn't look to good.

If heph somehow comes up with this amazing explanation that I find believable and if fact believe.  My vote would be on ABC

1) I am implying if we're going to lynch someone today, we've got to be sure we strike a mafia.

1) The less towns folk, the worse at this point because almost all of us are still arguing who is one.

2) I am almost sure I won't make it until tommorow if it wether it's a mafia kill or lynch.

The one mafia that would be killed could have high influence and be intelligent enough to determine who has what role among the others.

Without someone telling them what to do, the mafia could make the mistake of chosing the wrong player to attack.

3) The player they target could be a townie with a "crappy" role, saving the cop or vilgilante (if you guys have them here).

1) I believe that either we be certain and lynch someone, or have no lynch.

1) I believe this would give us a better chance at identifying Mafia.

4) It is only day one so the player that would be lynched could have a good role, like a cop.

They were allowed a single "I'm here" type of post as Day One started.  That was it.  I see that the way I worded that post looks funny, but if you look at the timestamps, you see that there really wasn't any discusion during the Day.

That is an interesting theory that you think Trucks let them talk during Day One this game, but I think it is highly unlikely.

Trivial in your eyes, maybe.

And while it doesn't seem important to you to talk about how people usually play, it helps me guage where a person is at mentally. Heph is not an agry player. One of the games where he was actually town and I was accusing him, he was sage. He was a class act. That is what I expect from Heph. Maybe he's fed up with me. I don't know. All I know is that he's acting differently.

EDIT: oh, and I made that accusation about your post hours and hours ago, so please don't insinuate that I'm not thinking clearly. What I'd like to know is why despite your claim, you don't suspect Heph of buddying up to you or anything like that. I'M the bad guy.

(which he is nice, btw)

Edited your post a bit to make it easy to respond to.

1) That is just not true.  Based on the most likely setup for this game, lynching everyday will give the town an extra lynch before losing.  Not lynching today means that the town has probably given up that chance forever.  It would take a successful doctor to get that chance back.  In the event that we have a successful doctor, we could always no lynch later to gain that extra day for the cop, or to thin the herd a bit through the night kill.  Having one less player every day in this scenario also improves the odds for the doctor and cop to be successful, and improves the odds for each lynch to be correct.

2) It does look like you are going to get lynched.  But if you don't, I seriously doubt the aliens would kill you.  With the amount of confusion you caused and the focus you have shifted to yourself, you are their best friend right now.  They would want to keep you around to continue to distract the town, and to use as an easy mislynch later in the game.  This all assumes you are innocent, which I don't think is the case.  I have no idea why you think the aliens would come after you, so I can only assume you are scum doing a poor job of thinking like a townie.

3) We do have vigilantes in the games we play on this website.  I don't know if we have one in this game though.

4) If a player has a power role, and they are about to get lynched, they should role claim.

Who says a no lynch can only happen on Day One?  We can always no lynch later if the doctor saves someone.  That would give the cop an extra investigation, or give the town better odds of finding scum with their lynch.

However, if we no lynch now, and the doctor doesn't save anyone, then the town can only mislynch twice before we lose.  If we lynch everyday, and the doctor doesn't save anyone, then the town can mislynch three times before we lose.

Of course, this all assumes there is a doctor, which is not gauranteed.

I've not done any of that once. Not once.

I point out things that I think are scum and give explanation for why. I've not bullied any person here ever.

Interesting though that you hoped I would be cooperative.