Have I ever seemed rash? Rest assured that I'm not going to vote until I'm caught up on the thread, current with potals(now with a finger pointing chart), and have a good idea who I'd suspect tomorrow given the possible flips of the lynch.

Exactly why are you so insistent on people leaving ABC alone? I had the same feeling as you, that efforts would better be focused elsewhere, but the way you seem to be trying to push that feels very odd. If you're both mafia I can't imagine you'd try to cover for a scumbuddy like this, but then again maybe that's exactly how you're trying to make me feel. On the other hand, I don't see you going to these lengths as mafia if he's a townie, so if that's the case then I guess it's a plus for you.

proff, you don't lead the town by bullying people, you lead it by bringing forward investigations.

the bully type is, you know, the one asking money for protection, same as you seem to be asking people to fit your criterias to be safe. I would have though that with the appearance of more players of type (the ones that post a lot) you'd have turned more to the cooperative yet carefull side, not the "i'm boss do as I say".

HoS proff, you're trying to impose yourself by being the strong minded one here, you may think it fits your townie playstyle, but you're wrong, you're usually more subtile.

I see it as a pretty standard scum tactic.

Defend another townie, and if he lives, you gain an ally*.  If he dies, you were on the "right" side of the lynch (against it).

(I'm not necessarily suspicious of Prof, I'm just going with the example.)

*Just ask Final-Fan.  I think it was the game right before I joined the mafia games.

First I have never said I thought he was town.  Only that I was neutral on him. I've never seen a game with a doc so I don't know how often those actually happen.

Next there was more than one point.  So saying I only have one isn't true.  I don't know why you are not noticing the other points I've made. You are good enough a player to have noticed them so I think something else is going on.  However since people seem to forget. One thing he did was  hammering without noticing that he's doing it.  Once would be bad enough, but he did it twice in a row.  The other point was how he was inactive after being a confirmed mason.  This was before his computer had problems because one point when linkz called him out on it he came it back really quick and voted without much information along with the vote.

That tactic seems to work better for scum.  IE your first day lynch last game after being MVP. You take out enough good players then they might miss something they wouldn't had more of them been left since the weaker players don't notice as much.  I really don't see how having strong players can hurt the town while having weaker ones can. Plus once again I've never said I think he's townie.

For instance although you are a stronger player you either not noticing or more likely choosing to leave out the other points I made, plus your bad math moment are really suspicios.If you were a weaker player I could see it happening but not so much from you.

HOS Heph

Noname's post, and leg's response were before your post. I never mentioned "fun and games" in my post, so I don't know WHY you even brought that up. 

theprof said: "At another point, though I hate to refer to it, she said she was in bad shape IRL. Heph unvoted her. Her next words were something like, "hey get back here and throw accusations around", yet heph's vote was a joke/random vote in the first place and he never really accused her that much of anything."

Your second link (trashleg's "come back here") happens 8 minutes after your post. Whereas your first link happens before your post.

Edit:

Especially that she says "GUYS", it's obvious she is responding to your post.

I've not done any of that once. Not once.

I point out things that I think are scum and give explanation for why. I've not bullied any person here ever.

Interesting though that you hoped I would be cooperative.

two questions leg, and one statement:

a) completely objective perspective there are more suspicious people out there and i hope the cop picks up on that

Who then? You've only mentioned ABC. Additionally, you mentioned earlier that:

people in general have been more suspicious of, eg, ABC, Wonk, Raddish, even you.

"I'm reading all your arguments the best I can, some of them seem redundant and some of them are valid but like I said, we all know (most of us) how to play smart and act dumb."

I'd like to know who you think those people are that you're implying are "playing dumb".

i didnt say i'd noticed anyone was this game but i know you all know your stuff.

b) im hopeful that the scum will be found out easy enough so i dont HAVE to defend myself too much

So, in the event that scum aren't easy to find, you will have to defend yourself and aren't confident in that? That's what I would gather from you "hoping" that you don't have to defend yourself.

not at all. dont put words in my mouth, its rude. nobody WANTS to have to defend themselves.

Lastly, and just a comment:

This is my game face. If you are my enemy, I will bring the hammer of justice down on you. I was not getting aggressive with you,(I know you didn't specify, but the implication was noted) I was just spelling out the bottom line. There is absolutely no vehemence, and no emotion involved period. 

you want justice. i want justice. i am no enemy of yours. i didnt imply you were being aggressive and i know theres no emotion but please dont talk like a douche for the sake of a game.

I do feel for your situation fyi. I was homeless for 2 months 4 years ago when my landlord kicked us out and we were living paycheck to paycheck with no backup plan. I also went to college while holding two jobs during this period. Heph being a nice guy or not does not excuse him from actions, (which he is nice, btw) but even so, as I'm sure you will appreciate, this isn't the let's pity trashleg party. If he is covering for you, whether for sincerity or for personal gain, it's a loose end. You said it's not suspicious. OK. Why don't you tell me just who is suspcious then.

excused for his actions?  they dont need to be excused. i already said i didnt want sympathy. but who are you to say who can and cant say whatever? maybe he wanted to cheer me up but didnt want to pm me outside of the game, i dont know.pretty decent of him anyway. he has nothing to gain from it, im not buddying with anyone.

im a one-man woman and my votes on ABC. i've already justified that. i dont have alternatives right now.

-stressed-

What makes you think there's an SK? Also, I can accept that you misread Stefl and thought he implied there were 4 mafia. Yet just as theRepublic pointed out with Stefl, it seems you're making a statement of fact that if there's no third-party then the scumteam is composed of three members.

guys is plural but whatever...