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Wonktonodi said:

I'm confused.  What I "bought" is what you said in point one.  Also I'm really not sure what it has to do with 3.

ABC: "The second, sort of. I wantedto see prof post along with heph but that time I just wanted to see all the players start conversing and prof and tangent were the only ones not. I would have mentioned Tangent but he said he was gone and would come back yesterday...where the hell is tanget anyways"

Now ABC only mentioned waiting on prof originally, on 02/10/11 17:30 EST
Trangent's only post happened 
on 02/10/11 18:17 EST

This is what jumped out at me immediately. If he had said something like "prof has voted already while trangent didn't" then I could've understood why he only mentioned prof. Whether ABC is scum or not, I did not think you would be fooled by such a statement.

 

There are more posts I'd like to get to, but it's time to enjoy the "holiday." For all intents and purposes I am voting for ABC. I'm interested in where the current dialogues are going though, so I'm going to wait until I return to make it official if it will even be needed.



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Wonktonodi said:
noname2200 said:
Wonktonodi said:

It is also helpful for townies to see who thinks like them as well. 

Why?  What benefit does a townie get from this if they're not actively lobbying for votes?


There are several I think I have pointed this out to linkz so some might be repeated but some might be knew

Seeing people who think like you can lead to a future vote even if not a current vote.

Also dependind on what they agree with how they agree and if they point out any flaws you can get some idea on the other players alignment. 

Yes it could be more easy to manipulate if you aren't going for a current vote but you can still get information.  Or know you have to go back and refine the idea. 

I'm not convinced.  I'd be delighted to give you a more in-depth answer to why these reasons are either incorrect or merely superfluous after the game, but for now suffice it to say that you can accomplish all of these goals just as easily by throwing out your own observations and questions, i.e. by being a townie.



@noname

I am stuck between wonk,heph, and trashleg.

I like to think that wonk is gambling, and is totally scum, but my proof isn't that concrete.

OTOH, I think Heph is acting WAY out of character, and I also think there is something strange about trashleg.

I've heard that trashleg once completely fooled everyone in a game and won as mafia, IIRC, and I'm suspicious about both her inability to keep time, and also her 20 hour disappearance between "192 posts" and her post previously to that, a block of 66 posts that she read and had no comment on.



Statement: I said the DBZ game and another game.

I clicked the threads to the last page when I looked at them.

 

This is the thread I believe the other game  was.

 

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=119841&page=1



19:44:34 Skeezer METAL GEAR ONLINE
19:44:36 Skeezer FAILURE
19:44:51 ABadClown You're right!
19:44:55 ABadClown Hur hur hur
19:45:01 Skeezer i meant
19:45:04 Skeezer YOU ARE A FAILKURE
19:45:08 Skeezer FAILURE*

Question: How does stefl usually play?

Does he usually not post too much on things?



19:44:34 Skeezer METAL GEAR ONLINE
19:44:36 Skeezer FAILURE
19:44:51 ABadClown You're right!
19:44:55 ABadClown Hur hur hur
19:45:01 Skeezer i meant
19:45:04 Skeezer YOU ARE A FAILKURE
19:45:08 Skeezer FAILURE*
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theprof00 said:

OTOH, I think Heph is acting WAY out of character, and I also think there is something strange about trashleg.

I've heard that trashleg once completely fooled everyone in a game and won as mafia, IIRC, and I'm suspicious about both her inability to keep time, and also her 20 hour disappearance between "192 posts" and her post previously to that, a block of 66 posts that she read and had no comment on.

actually, i died in that game. that was my first one, and the best ever. but that was in the middle of summer and i had way more time back then. im at uni 5 days now, and i work, so its a little more difficult. maybe i read the "192 posts" wrong, fuck if i know. i've been trying my hardest to keep up. i'm here now and i'll be here later. now give me some bloody time please, the game is moving so damn fast.

plus, what does OTOH mean. on the other hand?



Highwaystar101 said: trashleg said that if I didn't pay back the money she leant me, she would come round and break my legs... That's why people call her trashleg, because she trashes the legs of the people she loan sharks money to.
A Bad Clown said:

Statement: I said the DBZ game and another game.

I clicked the threads to the last page when I looked at them.

 

This is the thread I believe the other game  was.

 

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=119841&page=1

see abc that's another problem, I died day 1 that game. It's hard for me to believe that you know that I interrogate people when you've never seen me play.

Again, no need to respond to this, it's just another example of why I was on your case.



trashleg said:
theprof00 said:

OTOH, I think Heph is acting WAY out of character, and I also think there is something strange about trashleg.

I've heard that trashleg once completely fooled everyone in a game and won as mafia, IIRC, and I'm suspicious about both her inability to keep time, and also her 20 hour disappearance between "192 posts" and her post previously to that, a block of 66 posts that she read and had no comment on.

actually, i died in that game. that was my first one, and the best ever. but that was in the middle of summer and i had way more time back then. im at uni 5 days now, and i work, so its a little more difficult. maybe i read the "192 posts" wrong, fuck if i know. i've been trying my hardest to keep up. i'm here now and i'll be here later. now give me some bloody time please, the game is moving so damn fast.

plus, what does OTOH mean. on the other hand?

ah ok.

I understand having a hectic schedule, but "fuck if I know" isn't going to excuse you from that. I'll be keeping an eye on you, but I can empathize with having no free time.

and yes OTOH means on the other hand.

 

EDIT: to clarify, I think you've been trying to make it look like you're participating and keeping up by putting the blame on others, which doesn't necessarily make you scum, but is a common scum lurking tactic. I understand that an explanation might be that you feel bad about not being here, but it's still no excuse.



A Bad Clown said:

Question: How does stefl usually play?

Does he usually not post too much on things?


Judge for yourself.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=119841

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=121394



I'm not looking to make friends or buddies out of any of you, you all know the rules as do I. Most of you have played the game enough to know how to act and how to construct valid arguments based on just about anything, whether you're guilty or not. Therefore, there is no reason for me to side with any of you, except when I agree with accusations. I don't like bandwagoning, and I like to know what's going on. That's why it takes me so long to make up my mind about things, I don't like to be led. I think this is safest for me and for the town, and if I do agree with something someone has said it's because it's what I think, only someone said it first.

I'm reading all your arguments the best I can, some of them seem redundant and some of them are valid but like I said, we all know (most of us) how to play smart and act dumb.

i still vote for ABC, sure he's been a lot clearer now but he has been practically reprimanded for the way he was carrying himself throughout the first few pages. Anyone can act differently once they've been told "You're acting scummy". If he survives the lynch I'd like him to be investigated, but I'm not going to abstain from voting for him just to wait for investigation results. That's a waste of time and he's still who I'd regard as the most suspicious in the game. He's been jumping about (verbally) all over the place. I don't know what his role is and neither does anyone, except for the mafia who obv. know whether or not he's one of them.I don't see the point of FoS on ABC anymore, he knows I suspect him.

I'll re-read quick to find quotes and post them asap.

ftr, I don't have a "secondary vote".



Highwaystar101 said: trashleg said that if I didn't pay back the money she leant me, she would come round and break my legs... That's why people call her trashleg, because she trashes the legs of the people she loan sharks money to.