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Linkzmax on 13 February 2011
theRepublic said:
Linkzmax said:
Wonktonodi said:

you missed the other random vote on you, something so very alien for you :P

prof never said that it was a random vote though. And though truck counted it, because it wasn't bolded I didn't pay much attention to it.

I think you're joking, but I don't like the way you're saying everything that is done is "alien." It reminds me of the "scummy" posts last round. Granted you were a townie last time, so maybe it's just the way you play. Or is that how you want everyone to think you always play?

I don't see the issue here.  The theme of the game is humans vs aliens.  For this game, scummy = alien.

I'm refering to the overuse of "alien" as "scummy" was overused last round. Meaning it felt like an attempt to replicate that play. Additionally if Wonk was only hiding behind the appearance of a joke, he could be subtlely drawing attention towards townies or hiding his scummates in plain sight.

I know it's far from substantial, but little things like this have added up to the FoS I have on Wonk.



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theRepublic on 13 February 2011
Final-Fan said:

Well heck with this.  I'm sympathetic to Bad Clown and the other people who want to let him live through the first day of his first VGC Mafia game, but so many people are pegging him as suspicious that I have wonder if there isn't fire under all that smoke. 

Vote A Bad Clown. 

I'm not entirely comfortable with this reasoning.  Just because many people think something doesn't make it correct.



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Linkzmax on 13 February 2011
theRepublic said:
Hephaestos said:

Oh forgot to say this...

FoS the clown.... for not even realizing that me saying he was funny looking... was a pun on his sceen name... that and taking my attack on Noname to the first degree when he did the exact same thing (I even commented on this game being ninja themes as I got ninjaed twice in my replies already).

 

That said, I'm entirely against first day lynches of new players, even if they do a massive slips, they deserve their chance to play here a bit and get the atmosphere.

I am however for not letting slip through first day lynch the other players that slip up, as otherwise, they just slip through the holes and continue slipping scrutiny as other people appear to slip up every day (like radish did 2 rounds ago sleeping though his townie duties after sliping on first day.... that was a usefull tool for the mafia). I'd sleep better with first day targets properly prosecuted. (that also means cops can investigates the slip, lynch is not an absolute).

Assuming we even have a cop, which might not be the case.  Those assumptions can be dangerous.

I also agree that we need to remember to revist the people that we thought were the second most scummy the previous day.  For those not in the game last round, SuperAdriank had a huge slip up Day Two.  He was almost lynched, but then Scottie was ultimately lynched at the end of the Day.  Everyone forgot about him for another couple of Days, until Zexen came back and said "WTF is SuperAdriank still doing alive?"  Of course, SuperAdriank turned out to be scum.

You know, it's like people forget that in between scottie and SAK's lynches, we lynched Stefl who was also scum. Nobody had forgotten about SAK.



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theRepublic on 13 February 2011
Linkzmax said:
theRepublic said:

I don't see the issue here.  The theme of the game is humans vs aliens.  For this game, scummy = alien.

I'm refering to the overuse of "alien" as "scummy" was overused last round. Meaning it felt like an attempt to replicate that play. Additionally if Wonk was only hiding behind the appearance of a joke, he could be subtlely drawing attention towards townies or hiding his scummates in plain sight.

I know it's far from substantial, but little things like this have added up to the FoS I have on Wonk.

What do you mean that "scummy" was overused last round?



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theRepublic on 13 February 2011
theprof00 said:
trashleg said:

i can confirm that the website he's talking about does exist. I'm a member myself but yeah, they don't like people knowing about it. I haven't been on in ages though, and I haven't seen A Bad Clown there.

yu haven't seen ABC there?

 

ALSO WTF guys, are you really playing on other forums while we have games already on here?

That pisses me off a bit too.



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theRepublic on 13 February 2011
A Bad Clown said:

Prof, this has been bugging me since the start of this. Out of all the people in the game, you chose me to constantly quote and argue with. When radish was suspicious you went to me instead and casually passed it off from radish. I’m thinking that you and wonk and planning this, to kill two birds with one stone by having each of you accuse a separate weaker person. Wonk stopped quickly with a “:D” and changed to me while you seemed to be slowing down on my interrogation. I think you two are swapping targets, to keep it looking like you two are concerned town people!

It is not possible for them to plan a coordinated attack on Day One unless they are cheating.  The mafia, aliens in this case, don't get to talk to each other until Night One.



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Linkzmax on 13 February 2011
theRepublic said:

What do you mean that "scummy" was overused last round?

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3815598
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3815620
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3815638

Though Stefl(mafia) also overused the word.



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theRepublic on 13 February 2011
Linkzmax said:
theRepublic said:

Assuming we even have a cop, which might not be the case.  Those assumptions can be dangerous.

I also agree that we need to remember to revist the people that we thought were the second most scummy the previous day.  For those not in the game last round, SuperAdriank had a huge slip up Day Two.  He was almost lynched, but then Scottie was ultimately lynched at the end of the Day.  Everyone forgot about him for another couple of Days, until Zexen came back and said "WTF is SuperAdriank still doing alive?"  Of course, SuperAdriank turned out to be scum.

You know, it's like people forget that in between scottie and SAK's lynches, we lynched Stefl who was also scum. Nobody had forgotten about SAK.

From a mod's perspective, it absolutely looked like everyone had forgotten about SAK.  I don't believe that his mistake was brought up the next day at all, and I don't even remember it being that instrumental in his eventual lynch.  The specific example is not important.  It is what we can learn from it, and if we can apply it.



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Final-Fan on 13 February 2011
theRepublic said:
Final-Fan said:

Well heck with this.  I'm sympathetic to Bad Clown and the other people who want to let him live through the first day of his first VGC Mafia game, but so many people are pegging him as suspicious that I have wonder if there isn't fire under all that smoke. 

Vote A Bad Clown. 

I'm not entirely comfortable with this reasoning.  Just because many people think something doesn't make it correct.

You can read that as "when three or four other people and myself have independently become suspicious of ABC, I feel more confident that we're on to something" (than if one or two people thought so and managed to convince enough people to lynch). 

And obviously opinion doesn't determine fact, but there's not a lot of fact to go around in Mafia. 



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theRepublic on 13 February 2011
Final-Fan said:

In other words, your bolded statement confirms that my bolded hypothesis was exactly what happened. 

And that is all I intend to say about that, prof. 

Unvote A Bad Clown
Vote trangentspree.

Last vote total I saw, your vote is still on "me".

I don't think that is warranted any longer.



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