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Wonktonodi on 13 February 2011
theprof00 said:
Wonktonodi said:

1. well, if you insulted me, it would pretty much guarantee that you are mafia since both people who did last game ended up being mafia.

2. I didn't continue because ff pretty much summed up my own points about the situation. I hadn't looked at all the posts one after another to see the trend. Now, I did notice radish defending you, saying that he had been doing the same as you, which wasn't actually true. 

This defense is what initially made me think that you could both be mafia. 

3. As far as how long it took me to talk about this, I was content with Linkz line of investigation and decided that I should be looking into other people while he pursue you.

4. Also, participating more does not equate to playing better. What you wanted him to do, was participate more IMO. 

5. AND IMO those two different motivations come from two different camps.

1. Glad to see that.  It's still stupid though :P

2. I'm not sure where is defence of me came from I don't particularly like it and don't really think it's part of him playing better(now since all of you will think this is me trying to hint at getting him to stop I'll just say it clearly.  Radish stop having any posts that say in wonk's defence) If radish gets me killed by defending me after I was proposing an option that would take him out for playing badly. I hope we all find the humor in that.

3. What about when even he said he really didn't think he nailed me?

4. I agree they are not the same.  However participating more is a way to get a player to play better.  The more he posts the more room for feedback there is.  I want him to play better (I want everyone to really) and this could have lead to that is many different ways.

5. why are they different?  Why would someone only want someone to play more but not better?  wouldn't even scum want another scum to play better? 



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Wonktonodi on 13 February 2011
theprof00 said:
Wonktonodi said:
noname2200 said:
theprof00 said:

you know, call me crazy, but I wouldn't mind lynching both radish and wonk either.

That exchange did sound artificial, especially wonk's "I have not pushed for his lynch", and original reasoning giving non-participation as an excuse. I believe him when he says he doesn't want to lynch him, and I also notice the conditional "we will see how it plays out". I also notice the increased presence of radish after their discussion.

Actually, the post that most makes me suspicious of wonk and his pushing for radish's lynch (yes, that's what he was doing), is this one.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3910092

In hindsight, it reads like "I smell opportunity."

It was me seeing if there were likemined people out there.  I won't deny I was pushing the option of lynching radish you might see that as the same as pushing his lynch, I however was making the case for it to be an option better than no lynch. 

bolded is exactly what mafia do.


and townies too.  Mafia already know other mafia.  Townies are each on their own.  If this really is something that ONLY mafia do then I must be playing wrong.



theRepublic on 13 February 2011

FYI:  I am probably going to be quoting some old stuff that catches my eye, so try not to be too bothered when I bring something up that has already been talked about.



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Wonktonodi on 13 February 2011
theRepublic said:
TruckOSaurus said:

trangentspree has been replaced by theRepublic.

I'm here.  I've been following the thread a bit, but it has been moving extremely fast so I am already behind again.  It is going to take me some time to catch up and be able to contribute.


Well counting your tracking post you have now posted more than trangent.  Hope you catch up soon.



Wonktonodi on 13 February 2011
theRepublic said:

FYI:  I am probably going to be quoting some old stuff that catches my eye, so try not to be too bothered when I bring something up that has already been talked about.


I can't speak for everyone but I know I won't be bothered. You might find something we've missed although it it has really been covered, hopefully we'll let you know so it doesn't become a big distarction.



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Wonktonodi on 13 February 2011
Hephaestos said:
Linkzmax said:

 

yeah... came back later so went directly to the movies the once finally home it was to 150 posts, started reading... but fell asleep halfway. Today i had 150 more posts and not much time.

weekends are not my best activity when i go out, i'm currently at post 401 wich i'm quoting (there are 450plus).

i'm currently at the post i'm quoting :p


We might make it 500 by the time you get here :P



Hephaestos on 13 February 2011
Linkzmax said:

 As for the other "inactives," Heph was on 2 hours ago, Stefl 1 hour ago, and trashleg is on right now, so it's a bit worrisome not to hear from them.


when i open internet all my opened pages refresh. so me being on is not abnormal... especially in weekdays when i'm at work and read 5 mins at a time.

i don't play the online but not posting game, 90% of my VGC activity is in mafia threads.



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Hephaestos on 13 February 2011
theprof00 said:

2) I do agree that some people are notably absent. Especially Heph. His play style is reminding me of his last time as mafia in which he joked around the whole time, contributing nearly nothing. While it's only been a couple days, and insufficient imo to be evidence, there are a handful of people that fit those circumstances.


you did read my first few comments in the mafia quick topic that round yes? you know the ones where i was pissed at being singled for being less active when in fact it was completely out of my control?



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theprof00 on 13 February 2011
Hephaestos said:
theprof00 said:

2) I do agree that some people are notably absent. Especially Heph. His play style is reminding me of his last time as mafia in which he joked around the whole time, contributing nearly nothing. While it's only been a couple days, and insufficient imo to be evidence, there are a handful of people that fit those circumstances.


you did read my first few comments in the mafia quick topic that round yes? you know the ones where i was pissed at being singled for being less active when in fact it was completely out of my control?

are you also getting pissed now? Sounds familiar. 



Hephaestos on 13 February 2011
Linkzmax said:
Hephaestos said:

Now, the joke flood did get the game going nicely and we definitely have some interesting discutions.

it seems there are 3 centers of interest:

_ radish does seem to play a bit differently, which is either progression or suspicious...i wouldn't mind input from him on the other 2 situations to gauge that.

_ trangen... did say he'd have plenty of time today and disapeared with his promess of remarks...it's barely 48 hours since the game started, so there wouldn't be much to hold against him had he not said such things. Still, he did and will have to talk soon as he lit the fire under himself....

_as i said, I too am suspisious of abc, but i believe most of the points on him to seem a bit exagerated.... then again in the past 50 posts he made a bunch of  less serious replies that do warrant the previous remarks on him... it feels like i'm reading the thread in dissorder :-/ which either shows insight be his detractors or some scummyness from them combined by odd reactions from him...

oh well... 5 AM, see you in about 15hs :p

I see that you're online now. Anything new to offer about these things, or other things you've noticed?

I remember the last time you were mafia that you had said you wanted to be less active, but then last round I feel like you were right back to your talkative self anyway. This time around I feel like I want to hear from you more.

example.

my gf got on the net, i didnt till 23:30...

maybe i should close the page to not have firefox auto log me everytime (oh yeah cause my gf uses the net when i'm not here, that logs me on too...)

last round i died day 1...i posted 35 times (you postals i think) and that was mostly trying to keep proff from loosing his game by focusing on gniz.



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