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disolitude said:
ethomaz said:

NOKIA is dead now.


Actually they are anything but...They were going to die had they not done this though.

Nope. The finances shares are in free fall after the announcement and the only thing that was what made people still buy Nokia will be replaced by Window Phone 7.

The Nokia N8 (last Symbian phone) sold over 4 million in two months because 30% of market whats Symbian... now I will buy anyother phone except Nokia (I buy Nokia just because Symbian).

My next phone to be an iPhone because of the IOS. I didn't like like Android or Windows Mobile (Phone).

And the MeeGo? What happened?

For me Nokia is dead.



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ethomaz said:
disolitude said:
ethomaz said:

NOKIA is dead now.


Actually they are anything but...They were going to die had they not done this though.

Nope. The finances shares are in free fall after the announcement and the only thing that was what made people still buy Nokia will be replaced by Window Phone 7.

The Nokia N8 (last Symbian phone) sold over 4 million in two months because 30% of market whats Symbian... now I will buy anyother phone except Nokia (I buy Nokia just because Symbian).

My next phone to be an iPhone because of the IOS. I didn't like like Android or Windows Mobile (Phone).

And the MeeGo? What happened?

For me Nokia is dead.

Ok...for you its dead. But you are known to dislike Ms so I am not surprised...

I've used a symbian phone for 2 years and now have a windows 7 phone. People who buy a Nokia shouldn't have any issues seeing they are getting a huge upgrade on their OS. WP7 is much much better than Symbian for most users and their smartphone needs.

As long as Nokia delivers solid hardware, they are going to be amazing phones. The only way Nokia is going to fail is if people decide not to buy amazing phones.



Actual announcement by Nokia CEO and DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS!!!! CEO.



disolitude said:

it was like going from a PS1 to a PS3.


That's one good irony.



disolitude said:
ethomaz said:
disolitude said:
ethomaz said:

NOKIA is dead now.


Actually they are anything but...They were going to die had they not done this though.

Nope. The finances shares are in free fall after the announcement and the only thing that was what made people still buy Nokia will be replaced by Window Phone 7.

The Nokia N8 (last Symbian phone) sold over 4 million in two months because 30% of market whats Symbian... now I will buy anyother phone except Nokia (I buy Nokia just because Symbian).

My next phone to be an iPhone because of the IOS. I didn't like like Android or Windows Mobile (Phone).

And the MeeGo? What happened?

For me Nokia is dead.

Ok...for you its dead. But you have Ms so I am not surpried...

I've used a symbian phone for 2 years and now have a windows 7 phone. People who buy a Nokia shouldn't have any issues seeing they are getting a huge upgrade on their OS. WP7 is much much better than Symbian for most users and their smartphone needs.

As long as Nokia delivers solid hardware, they are going to be amazing phones. The only way Nokia is going to fail is if people decide not to buy amazing phones.

Just a question... did you used the Symbian^3 on N8??? Way better than Window Phone 7.

Except the old web browser (will receive a update PR 2.0 next month) the OS changed a lot... to better... making it on pair or better than iOS or Android.

Like I said... 30% of market today is Nokia Symbian... and now these market will be splitted and Nokia will be lose more market to other companies that offer the better hardware.

I can be wrong... and I'm hoping for being... but Nokia for me nevermore.

PS. I loved MS Office and Windows (I'm not a Linux user and hate the OpenOffice)... but I didn't like the Window Phone OS... and the new NOKIA's CEO is a ex-MS (coincidence?).



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disolitude said:

WP7 is much much better than Symbian for most users and their smartphone needs.

You know, scrolling things up and down is not the only need users have xD

Seriosly. WP7 lacks lots and lots, in current state it makes rival to feature phones only

 



ethomaz said:

Just a question... did you used the Symbian^3 on N8???

Except the old web browser (will receive a update PR 2.0 next month) the OS changed a lot... to better... making it on pair or better than iOS or Android.

Like I said... 30% of market today is Nokia Symbian... and now these market will be splitted and Nokia will be lose more market to other companies that offer the better hardware.

I can be wrong... and I'm hoping for being... but Nokia for me nevermore.

I did not use Symbian 3...E71 came with S60. There is a good chance of Symbian 3 was a lot better, but Nokia would not be scrambling to dump it if it was competitive.

Otherwise, I don't think people buying Nokia phones said "I am buying this because it has symbian". Nokia has great hardware, and great market penetration in Europe.  There really isn't anything Symbian OS can do that other OS systems can't.

Once the new Nokia phones come out, if they are as compelling hardware wise as they used to be and competitevly priced, they will sell. Ovi store will be here, Ovi maps are being integrated...What else do you get on Nokias phones that you wouldn't on other phones? On top of that you get xbox live integration, MS office integration, Bing support and other microsoft goodies which you never would on a nokia phone.



MDMAniac said:
disolitude said:

WP7 is much much better than Symbian for most users and their smartphone needs.

You know, scrolling things up and down is not the only need users have xD

Seriosly. WP7 lacks lots and lots, in current state it makes rival to feature phones only

 

Doesn't lack "lots"...lacks some. Things like enterprise email integration, copy paste, phone tethering (without hacks), multitasking....should be coming in the near future.



disolitude said:
ethomaz said:
 

Just a question... did you used the Symbian^3 on N8???

Except the old web browser (will receive a update PR 2.0 next month) the OS changed a lot... to better... making it on pair or better than iOS or Android.

Like I said... 30% of market today is Nokia Symbian... and now these market will be splitted and Nokia will be lose more market to other companies that offer the better hardware.

I can be wrong... and I'm hoping for being... but Nokia for me nevermore.

I did not use Symbian 3...E71 came with S60. There is a good chance of Symbian 3 was a lot better, but Nokia would not be scrambling to dump it if it was competitive.

Otherwise, I don't think people buying Nokia phones said "I am buying this because it has symbian". Nokia has great hardware, and great market penetration in Europe.  There really isn't anything Symbian OS can do that other OS systems can't.

Once the new Nokia phones come out, if they are as compelling hardware wise as they used to be and competitevly priced, they will sell. Ovi store will be here, Ovi maps are being integrated...What else do you get on Nokias phones that you wouldn't on other phones? On top of that you get xbox live integration, MS office integration, Bing support and other microsoft goodies which you never would on a nokia phone.

What I get with Nokia phones errr Symbian?

Just for explain one think I didn't buy Nokia because Nokia... I buy Nokia because  Symbian... so I almost bought a Sony VIVAZ because it came with Symbian but Nokia N8 was lanunched and... the company doesn't matter to me but the OS yes.

Now I can list all the thinks N8 had and the other don't... somethings:

- Alarm works even with phone off or with low battery (not enough to turn on)? Symbian does.
- USB Host (any USB device works)? Symbian does.
- Full HDMI support? Symbian does.
- One-click connectivity (switching automatically from cellular to Wireless LAN)? Symbian does.
- True real multithread? Symbian does.
- Performance (not need a super dual core cortex A8)? Symbian does.

And more... much more.



This is a huge coup for MS. They bagged themselves the world's biggest mobile OEM for roughly zero dollars (presumably Nokia will pay MS for the privilege!), and eliminated two competing smartphone platforms at a stroke. I'm sure this is why Nokia's board brought Elop in to begin with, and it seems like an act of desperation on their part.

Nokia's value is going to be heavily damaged by this. Many of their "smartphones" were basically being used as feature phones, and I think they can hold on to a lot of those customers, but a lot of the power users are going to feel betrayed. Imagine your PC platform of choice being completely wiped out, and the next time you buy a computer you're going to have to replace all your software and figure out how to migrate your data over. Those power users are the people who buy the apps and really drive the ecosystem.

The good news is that there's still a lot of smartphone growth to be had in the 75% or so of mobile phone users who don't have a smartphone yet. Nobody has a better claim to those future smartphone customers than Nokia.



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