umm, since killzone is such a generic FPS, what other game has it copied, or is very similar to it. if its generic there most be many games just like, no?

you're in luck, have you seen Killzone's, snow and jungle levels

um both? nintendo once again doesn't have to go for the kinda power sony/Microsoft will prob be pushing for but they definitely have to do a significant upgrade this time around, it's prob best to look at 3ds for what their strategy for the wii next will be(one key new innovation, upgrade in power and a push for third party support at the least amongst japanese developers). the other two , i presume that they will go for more power too with a gimmick ( used with a positive connotation) and prolong this generation so that they can launch at a cost effective and market acceptable price. 

Actually in the end neither matters, it will forever be the software that in the end wins out, motion controls alone did not sell the wii, the use of it in games like wii sports did, same goes for the touchscreen in the ds. and if you look back in history the most powerful console, handheld whatever has almos never won out. In the end making games that compels people to buy your system is what really matters. 

this!

Biggest fail I've done in my life so far...how the f*ck didn't I see the word ''FPS''?:|,just gonna cry in my little corner now...

Of these, neither. What matters is games. If a system doesn't have the games, it dies.

But if I had to pick between these 2 only, easily innovation; it's more influencial than power over every gen. Observe:

1. Pong won, despite being the simplest game known to exist. It innovated by creating gaming.
2. Atari 2600 won, for introducing arcade games at home and interchangable cartridges, despite both its main competitors (Colecovision and Intellivision) being stronger.
3. NES won, for bringing about quality control, and completely redoing the controller. A stronger Master System could not topple it.
4. SNES won, for continuing to innovate the controller. Admittingly, it also got to ride on the Nintendo brand, however, the arcade power in the Neo-Geo could not overtake it.
5. PS1 won, for making the CD standard from day 1, though, while also on the earlier Saturn, the power also brought about the FMV (and in my eyes, the fall of gaming, but that's for another thread) propelling it past the superior in power N64.
6. PS2 won, though it was the weakest system this gen. I can't point to any significant innovation at all though.
7. Well... it's the current generation... I think the verdict will be obvious here...

You're placing the power to win the console war in the hardware space.

Hardware doesn't win console wars, not ever. Games do. Games that leverage hardware, like Wii Sports, sure - but the games matter first.

Dreamcast hates you.

I didn't read any post from this thread, but please let it be innovation... please! Oh, and mostly fun.

I think Snes wan cause nintendo made amazing games for it. Especially towards the end of that gen. Had Sega stuck to their gaming guns as well and not screwed around with Sega CD/32X they would have given snes more than it could handle. They had Europe and US in the bag till 1994...then they got spread too thin on too many systems.

There were standard CD based systems before PS1. PS1 won because Sony started using hype for hardware and gave everyone a lesson in game marketting. They started the whole "lose money on hardware-make money on software" model and were very aggressive in courting 3rd parties for exclusivity.  Sega didn't help its cause by having absolutely no management direction outside of japan and nintendo screwed the pooch for using cartriges.

PS2 won with the exact same model as PS1 as well as continued success of PS1. Huge tech hype out of the gate, rally 3rd party support...by the time Xbox and gamecube came which were more powerful, Ps2 was already a generation winner.

Sony really hasn't changed their game since PS1...New sony console = new storage medium to push, redidulous tech hype (which is usually a bust) and lose money on hardware. Now that Microsoft can play the losses game all day long with them, they will need to change their gameplan.