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ameratsu said:

Ok, I don't post in off topic much but here it goes.

What I dislike about coverage of these types of events is that they are completely out of line with the beliefs of virtually all Muslims. The Incidents of stoning that do take place are isolated and condemned by prominent individuals within the Muslim world, but that doesn't seem to garner as much coverage.

I mean... discuss stoning and what it means once you have some basic understanding of Islamic history, beliefs, and practices. Sitting on your computer at home and being outraged or sickened without being able to put these events into a historical and cultural context serves no purpose. 

What I can say is that a layperson who reads the news is overwhelmed with negative stories about Muslim and Islam in general. Most Americans don't know a Muslims personally, are increasingly distrustful of Muslims, yet the only time I see Islam and Muslims mentioned on here is with some negative connotation which only serves to reinforce this negative image. When news like this slips through the cracks while individual cases of extremism dominate news coverage, there's a problem.

People can read all these silly religious texts and read whatever they like. At the end of the day the world would be a better place without them.



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radishhead said:
huaxiong90 said:
radishhead said:

I'm fine with the death penalty, but this is horrible. I don't think that it's a crime punishable by death, but I'm willing to accept that this culture believes that it is - fine - but couldn't they have just shot them? Stoning is totally wrong in this age.

Erm...did you even read the article?

They stoned her first

I know, but I was wondering, since you said "couldn't have just shot them"? It seemed to me like you just read the title.

Nothing against you when I say this, but it's really annoying in general when people look only at the title and take that as the summary of the article.



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Well we all know god is love, and if god commanded it, then this is really a loving provision. Much like how he had jews stone each other to death for picking up sticks on the sabbath, or adulterly, or children being disobedient to parents. I mean surely stoning a child to death for being disobedient is really in everyone's best interest, and so perfectly justified! Same for adulterers? Do you just want society to be a big orgy? Or is the problem, not the action but the wrong religion, and it's wrong for them to do it because it's in the quran and not the bible. I'm having a hard time figuring it out.

 

Or fuck, it's just an egregious human rights violation and it is wrong no matter what stupid books command. Anyone with an ounce of empathy for other human beings cannot in anyway try to justify these actions, or make excuses for ancient deities that command them.



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The_vagabond7 said:

Well we all know god is love, and if god commanded it, then this is really a loving provision. Much like how he had jews stone each other to death for picking up sticks on the sabbath, or adulterly, or children being disobedient to parents. I mean surely stoning a child to death for being disobedient is really in everyone's best interest, and so perfectly justified! Same for adulterers? Do you just want society to be a big orgy? Or is the problem, not the action but the wrong religion, and it's wrong for them to do it because it's in the quran and not the bible. I'm having a hard time figuring it out.

 

Or fuck, it's just an egregious human rights violation and it is wrong no matter what stupid books command. Anyone with an ounce of empathy for other human beings cannot in anyway try to justify these actions, or make excuses for ancient deities that command them.

Great post!



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In a country where most people can't read it's no wonder why the Taliban spokesman Zabiullah Majuhid can lie that stoning is in the Quran.

Stoning is not mentioned any where in the quran when it comes to adultery, the punishment is 80 lashes, not stoning to death.



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m25105 said:

In a country where most people can't read it's no wonder why the Taliban spokesman Zabiullah Majuhid can lie that stoning is in the Quran.

Stoning is not mentioned any where in the quran when it comes to adultery, the punishment is 80 lashes, not stoning to death.


lol, much more humane. If only this was a video of a woman receiving 80 lashes, until her back is just a series of bloody fleshy ribbons we wouldn't even be having this conversation.



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The_vagabond7 said:
m25105 said:

In a country where most people can't read it's no wonder why the Taliban spokesman Zabiullah Majuhid can lie that stoning is in the Quran.

Stoning is not mentioned any where in the quran when it comes to adultery, the punishment is 80 lashes, not stoning to death.


lol, much more humane. If only this was a video of a woman receiving 80 lashes, until her back is just a series of bloody fleshy ribbons we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

I'm sure those being stoned would rather prefer to be whipped than being stoned to death.



m25105 said:
The_vagabond7 said:
m25105 said:

In a country where most people can't read it's no wonder why the Taliban spokesman Zabiullah Majuhid can lie that stoning is in the Quran.

Stoning is not mentioned any where in the quran when it comes to adultery, the punishment is 80 lashes, not stoning to death.


lol, much more humane. If only this was a video of a woman receiving 80 lashes, until her back is just a series of bloody fleshy ribbons we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

I'm sure those being stoned would rather prefer to be whipped than being stoned to death.

How about no torture whatsoever? I'm sure everyone would prefer that.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

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"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

sapphi_snake said:
m25105 said:
The_vagabond7 said:
m25105 said:

In a country where most people can't read it's no wonder why the Taliban spokesman Zabiullah Majuhid can lie that stoning is in the Quran.

Stoning is not mentioned any where in the quran when it comes to adultery, the punishment is 80 lashes, not stoning to death.


lol, much more humane. If only this was a video of a woman receiving 80 lashes, until her back is just a series of bloody fleshy ribbons we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

I'm sure those being stoned would rather prefer to be whipped than being stoned to death.

How about no torture whatsoever? I'm sure everyone would prefer that.


The world and the different cultures all perceive punishments different. My point is that is the Taliban is lying when they're saying they're enforcing Sharia law, when stoning someone to death cause of adultery can be found no where in Quran. The Quran specifically states 80 lashes.



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