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Degausser on 28 January 2011
johnglen said:
ethomaz said:
johnglen said:
Hyruken said:
D-Joe said:

 

so

 

 

US(NPD) Japan(MC) Europe(ENG,ESP,FRA,GER)full year of 2010(i just check the console)

 

 

Wii=12354438

 

 

360=9524827

 

 

PS3=8695123

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


The thing with the PS3 and 360 in Europe is they are always quite close. As those numbers show that is about what 85% of EU sales? The UK numbers obviously really help the 360 to stay in it. Without those numbers the 200k gap would be a lot more. As it is the gap is only about 15k on average a month between the two. So when you do the NPD numbers with the Japan numbers and these EU numbers you see 360 is almost 1m ahead of PS3 for the year.

 

But it is the other regions in EMEAA which pull it back. If you do "other" region for the same period PS3 sold 1.7m. Compared to just 600k for the 360. That is the Asia,Africa and Middle East regions. When we get the numbers next thursday we will see if they are close or not. If they are not then it could make the yearly totals even more closer. If lower then could even say 360 outsold PS3 worldwide for the year. From 10th of jan to the end of the year i think the gap is about 500k in PS3 favour. So these are really interesting numbers and show Europe doesn't have a very big gap between the two at all for 2010.

 

 

Wait so you are saying that....africa, middle east and asia made up for the almost 1 million difference between the 360 and ps3 ??? Seriously ?? When the ps3 sold less than 9 million in almost all big markets combined
 , it covered a 1 million difference with ...africa and middle east ??

Whatever WE FINALLY HAVE SOME SOLID NUMBERS  so this stupid speculation about how the ps3 is destroying the xbox360 is Europe can be put to rest. Oh and WW xbox360>>Ps3 in 2010 and things will be even better in 2011 with kinect in full swing.

You forgot the thirth big market in EU... Italy... so PS3 > 360 in EMEAA by a lot in 2010.

And PS3 sold more in WW than 360 in 2010 too.

and you forget markets like Canada and Australia that follow the U.K and the U.S in buying habits . Oh an where is the proof that Italy is the 3rd big market in Europe ?? I thought that U.K, Germany and France were much bigger and possibly even Spain.  The fact of the matter is that in what is basically 85 to 90% of Europe the ps3 has a 200k lead over the 360 in yearly sales .

Again these numbers (which are basically worldwide sales) show a big difference in favour of the xbox360 and dispel many myths .  

 You might want to brush up on your European Geography.



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johnglen on 28 January 2011
Degausser said:
johnglen said:
ethomaz said:
johnglen said:
Hyruken said:
D-Joe said:

 

so

 

 

US(NPD) Japan(MC) Europe(ENG,ESP,FRA,GER)full year of 2010(i just check the console)

 

 

Wii=12354438

 

 

360=9524827

 

 

PS3=8695123

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


The thing with the PS3 and 360 in Europe is they are always quite close. As those numbers show that is about what 85% of EU sales? The UK numbers obviously really help the 360 to stay in it. Without those numbers the 200k gap would be a lot more. As it is the gap is only about 15k on average a month between the two. So when you do the NPD numbers with the Japan numbers and these EU numbers you see 360 is almost 1m ahead of PS3 for the year.

 

But it is the other regions in EMEAA which pull it back. If you do "other" region for the same period PS3 sold 1.7m. Compared to just 600k for the 360. That is the Asia,Africa and Middle East regions. When we get the numbers next thursday we will see if they are close or not. If they are not then it could make the yearly totals even more closer. If lower then could even say 360 outsold PS3 worldwide for the year. From 10th of jan to the end of the year i think the gap is about 500k in PS3 favour. So these are really interesting numbers and show Europe doesn't have a very big gap between the two at all for 2010.

 

 

Wait so you are saying that....africa, middle east and asia made up for the almost 1 million difference between the 360 and ps3 ??? Seriously ?? When the ps3 sold less than 9 million in almost all big markets combined
 , it covered a 1 million difference with ...africa and middle east ??

Whatever WE FINALLY HAVE SOME SOLID NUMBERS  so this stupid speculation about how the ps3 is destroying the xbox360 is Europe can be put to rest. Oh and WW xbox360>>Ps3 in 2010 and things will be even better in 2011 with kinect in full swing.

You forgot the thirth big market in EU... Italy... so PS3 > 360 in EMEAA by a lot in 2010.

And PS3 sold more in WW than 360 in 2010 too.

and you forget markets like Canada and Australia that follow the U.K and the U.S in buying habits . Oh an where is the proof that Italy is the 3rd big market in Europe ?? I thought that U.K, Germany and France were much bigger and possibly even Spain.  The fact of the matter is that in what is basically 85 to 90% of Europe the ps3 has a 200k lead over the 360 in yearly sales .

Again these numbers (which are basically worldwide sales) show a big difference in favour of the xbox360 and dispel many myths .  

 You might want to brush up on your European Geography.

What ?? I am talking about worldwide sales , WTF is this supposed to mean ....that i think that Canada and Australia are....in Europe ??

I mean come on , i know that these numbers hurt a lot of feelings but one liners like this add nothing (BTW i am from Europe) .



johnglen on 28 January 2011
ethomaz said:
johnglen said:
ethomaz said:
johnglen said:
Hyruken said:
D-Joe said:

 

so

 

 

US(NPD) Japan(MC) Europe(ENG,ESP,FRA,GER)full year of 2010(i just check the console)

 

 

Wii=12354438

 

 

360=9524827

 

 

PS3=8695123

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


The thing with the PS3 and 360 in Europe is they are always quite close. As those numbers show that is about what 85% of EU sales? The UK numbers obviously really help the 360 to stay in it. Without those numbers the 200k gap would be a lot more. As it is the gap is only about 15k on average a month between the two. So when you do the NPD numbers with the Japan numbers and these EU numbers you see 360 is almost 1m ahead of PS3 for the year.

 

But it is the other regions in EMEAA which pull it back. If you do "other" region for the same period PS3 sold 1.7m. Compared to just 600k for the 360. That is the Asia,Africa and Middle East regions. When we get the numbers next thursday we will see if they are close or not. If they are not then it could make the yearly totals even more closer. If lower then could even say 360 outsold PS3 worldwide for the year. From 10th of jan to the end of the year i think the gap is about 500k in PS3 favour. So these are really interesting numbers and show Europe doesn't have a very big gap between the two at all for 2010.

 

 

Wait so you are saying that....africa, middle east and asia made up for the almost 1 million difference between the 360 and ps3 ??? Seriously ?? When the ps3 sold less than 9 million in almost all big markets combined
 , it covered a 1 million difference with ...africa and middle east ??

Whatever WE FINALLY HAVE SOME SOLID NUMBERS  so this stupid speculation about how the ps3 is destroying the xbox360 is Europe can be put to rest. Oh and WW xbox360>>Ps3 in 2010 and things will be even better in 2011 with kinect in full swing.

You forgot the thirth big market in EU... Italy... so PS3 > 360 in EMEAA by a lot in 2010.

And PS3 sold more in WW than 360 in 2010 too.

and you forget markets like Canada and Australia that follow the U.K and the U.S in buying habits . Oh an where is the proof that Italy is the 3rd big market in Europe ?? I thought that U.K, Germany and France were much bigger and possibly even Spain.  The fact of the matter is that in what is basically 85 to 90% of Europe the ps3 has a 200k lead over the 360 in yearly sales .

Again these numbers (which are basically worldwide sales) show a big difference in favour of the xbox360 and dispel many myths .  

No. Italy is on pair with Germany in EU... over Spain... UK > France > Germany = Italy > Spain for PS3.

And UK, France, Germany and Spain is just 50% of EMEAA sales.

PS3 WW > 360 WW in 2010.

Edit - Why I forget Canada, Australia and US in Europe numbers???

WHAT ?? You people are clueless, the worst the ps3 does the more insane "facts" you post.



ethomaz on 28 January 2011
johnglen said:
ethomaz said:
johnglen said:
ethomaz said:
johnglen said:
Wait so you are saying that....africa, middle east and asia made up for the almost 1 million difference between the 360 and ps3 ??? Seriously ?? When the ps3 sold less than 9 million in almost all big markets combined
 , it covered a 1 million difference with ...africa and middle east ??

Whatever WE FINALLY HAVE SOME SOLID NUMBERS  so this stupid speculation about how the ps3 is destroying the xbox360 is Europe can be put to rest. Oh and WW xbox360>>Ps3 in 2010 and things will be even better in 2011 with kinect in full swing.

You forgot the thirth big market in EU... Italy... so PS3 > 360 in EMEAA by a lot in 2010.

And PS3 sold more in WW than 360 in 2010 too.

and you forget markets like Canada and Australia that follow the U.K and the U.S in buying habits . Oh an where is the proof that Italy is the 3rd big market in Europe ?? I thought that U.K, Germany and France were much bigger and possibly even Spain.  The fact of the matter is that in what is basically 85 to 90% of Europe the ps3 has a 200k lead over the 360 in yearly sales .

Again these numbers (which are basically worldwide sales) show a big difference in favour of the xbox360 and dispel many myths .  

No. Italy is on pair with Germany in EU... over Spain... UK > France > Germany = Italy > Spain for PS3.

And UK, France, Germany and Spain is just 50% of EMEAA sales.

PS3 WW > 360 WW in 2010.

Edit - Why I forget Canada, Australia and US in Europe numbers???

WHAT ?? You people are clueless, the worst the ps3 does the more insane "facts" you post.

Oh god... give me patience.

PS3 EMEAA:  22,278,380

PS3 UK: 3,808,019
PS3 FR: 3,036,981
PS3 DE: 2,499,415
PS3 ES: 1,897,062

You want me to do the math?

And 2010 is the best selling year for PS3... it was UP week on year until September or more... ans finish UP year on year 8%.



AussieGecko on 28 January 2011
ethomaz said:

Oh god... give me patience.

PS3 EMEAA:  22,278,380

PS3 UK: 3,808,019
PS3 FR: 3,036,981
PS3 DE: 2,499,415
PS3 ES: 1,897,062

You want me to do the math?

And 2010 is the best selling year for PS3... it was UP week on year until September or more... ans finish UP year on year 8%.


Wasnt PS3 down last year? If it was PS3's best selling year that couldn't be true could it?

Secondly according to the numbers presented 360 wipe the flow with those 4 numbers in the virtue of 1 million for 2010 ye.

Thirdly when Australia and Canada were brought into it someone brought in the rest of the world and Australia and Canada does indeed include that.

Stop being so aggressive and arrogant. You are not always right.



 

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ethomaz on 28 January 2011
AussieGecko said:
Wasnt PS3 down last year? If it was PS3's best selling year that couldn't be true could it?

Secondly according to the numbers presented 360 wipe the flow with those 4 numbers in the virtue of 1 million for 2010 ye.

Thirdly when Australia and Canada were brought into it someone brought in the rest of the world and Australia and Canada does indeed include that.

Stop being so aggressive and arrogant. You are not always right.

1. No. PS3 is not down last year... sold 1 million more (12.9m to 14.1m).

2. Yes. These numbers shows Xbox 360 almost tied with PS3 in 4 countries... but these four countries account for 50% of EMEA sales for the PS3 and 60% of EMEAA sales for 360. That's the difference... PS3 sold more out these coutries.

3. Ok. 2010 WW: PS3 > 360. 2010 NA: 360 > PS3. 2010 EMEAA: PS3 > 360. 2010 JP: PS3 > PS3. Canada in NA and Australia in EMEAA.

4. Sorry... but I became agressive because he was agreessive... and not I'm not always right... but PS3 won over 360 in 2010 (just lost in NA).



postofficebuddy on 28 January 2011

Just to clear one thing up, the graph showing weekly sales would appear to be for the entirety of Europe. The bar graph for UK, Germany, France, and Spain sales shows that PS3 sold less in 2010 than in 2009. But if you look at the weekly chart from the previous investor briefing it shows that PS3 actually sold noticeably more in 2010 than in 2009. 

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/library/events/101029/img/20l.jpg

As you can see here PS3 in 2010 was outselling 2009 by a consistent 15k-35k per week through the first 8 months of the year. I didn't count pixels but for the few weeks where 2009 was on top the total YOY loss was somewhere in the vicinity of 200k-225k. It probably almost made that up in the holidays alone.



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Reach on 29 January 2011
ethomaz said:
AussieGecko said:
Wasnt PS3 down last year? If it was PS3's best selling year that couldn't be true could it?

Secondly according to the numbers presented 360 wipe the flow with those 4 numbers in the virtue of 1 million for 2010 ye.

Thirdly when Australia and Canada were brought into it someone brought in the rest of the world and Australia and Canada does indeed include that.

Stop being so aggressive and arrogant. You are not always right.

1. No. PS3 is not down last year... sold 1 million more (12.9m to 14.1m).

2. Yes. These numbers shows Xbox 360 almost tied with PS3 in 4 countries... but these four countries account for 50% of EMEA sales for the PS3 and 60% of EMEAA sales for 360. That's the difference... PS3 sold more out these coutries.

3. Ok. 2010 WW: PS3 > 360. 2010 NA: 360 > PS3. 2010 EMEAA: PS3 > 360. 2010 JP: PS3 > PS3. Canada in NA and Australia in EMEAA.

4. Sorry... but I became agressive because he was agreessive... and not I'm not always right... but PS3 won over 360 in 2010 (just lost in NA).

This guys stills believes in father christmas! LOOL Ps3 didnt won anything in 2010... Stop acting like VGC knows everything they are probably off in EMA markets so shut up and accept that 360 destroyed Ps3.



D-Joe on 29 January 2011
johnglen said:
ethomaz said:
johnglen said:
ethomaz said:
johnglen said:
Hyruken said:
D-Joe said:

 

so

US(NPD) Japan(MC) Europe(ENG,ESP,FRA,GER)full year of 2010(i just check the console)

Wii=12354438

360=9524827

PS3=8695123


The thing with the PS3 and 360 in Europe is they are always quite close. As those numbers show that is about what 85% of EU sales? The UK numbers obviously really help the 360 to stay in it. Without those numbers the 200k gap would be a lot more. As it is the gap is only about 15k on average a month between the two. So when you do the NPD numbers with the Japan numbers and these EU numbers you see 360 is almost 1m ahead of PS3 for the year.

 

But it is the other regions in EMEAA which pull it back. If you do "other" region for the same period PS3 sold 1.7m. Compared to just 600k for the 360. That is the Asia,Africa and Middle East regions. When we get the numbers next thursday we will see if they are close or not. If they are not then it could make the yearly totals even more closer. If lower then could even say 360 outsold PS3 worldwide for the year. From 10th of jan to the end of the year i think the gap is about 500k in PS3 favour. So these are really interesting numbers and show Europe doesn't have a very big gap between the two at all for 2010.

 

 

Wait so you are saying that....africa, middle east and asia made up for the almost 1 million difference between the 360 and ps3 ??? Seriously ?? When the ps3 sold less than 9 million in almost all big markets combined
 , it covered a 1 million difference with ...africa and middle east ??

Whatever WE FINALLY HAVE SOME SOLID NUMBERS  so this stupid speculation about how the ps3 is destroying the xbox360 is Europe can be put to rest. Oh and WW xbox360>>Ps3 in 2010 and things will be even better in 2011 with kinect in full swing.

You forgot the thirth big market in EU... Italy... so PS3 > 360 in EMEAA by a lot in 2010.

And PS3 sold more in WW than 360 in 2010 too.

and you forget markets like Canada and Australia that follow the U.K and the U.S in buying habits . Oh an where is the proof that Italy is the 3rd big market in Europe ?? I thought that U.K, Germany and France were much bigger and possibly even Spain.  The fact of the matter is that in what is basically 85 to 90% of Europe the ps3 has a 200k lead over the 360 in yearly sales .

Again these numbers (which are basically worldwide sales) show a big difference in favour of the xbox360 and dispel many myths .  

No. Italy is on pair with Germany in EU... over Spain... UK > France > Germany = Italy > Spain for PS3.

And UK, France, Germany and Spain is just 50% of EMEAA sales.

PS3 WW > 360 WW in 2010.

Edit - Why I forget Canada, Australia and US in Europe numbers???

WHAT ?? You people are clueless, the worst the ps3 does the more insane "facts" you post.

finally i found the Italy 2009 data...every console lower than Spain
http://wikiwiki.jp/gamehard/?À¤³¦¥Ï¡¼¥ÉÇä¤ê¾å¤²/»Ô¾ìµ¬ÌÏ#h9aa55ee

800k(360) vs 1m(PS3) in end of 2009,i don't think the gap is more than GER/FRA/ESP in end of 2010



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ethomaz on 29 January 2011
Reach said:
ethomaz said:
AussieGecko said:
Wasnt PS3 down last year? If it was PS3's best selling year that couldn't be true could it?

Secondly according to the numbers presented 360 wipe the flow with those 4 numbers in the virtue of 1 million for 2010 ye.

Thirdly when Australia and Canada were brought into it someone brought in the rest of the world and Australia and Canada does indeed include that.

Stop being so aggressive and arrogant. You are not always right.

1. No. PS3 is not down last year... sold 1 million more (12.9m to 14.1m).

2. Yes. These numbers shows Xbox 360 almost tied with PS3 in 4 countries... but these four countries account for 50% of EMEA sales for the PS3 and 60% of EMEAA sales for 360. That's the difference... PS3 sold more out these coutries.

3. Ok. 2010 WW: PS3 > 360. 2010 NA: 360 > PS3. 2010 EMEAA: PS3 > 360. 2010 JP: PS3 > PS3. Canada in NA and Australia in EMEAA.

4. Sorry... but I became agressive because he was agreessive... and not I'm not always right... but PS3 won over 360 in 2010 (just lost in NA).

This guys stills believes in father christmas! LOOL Ps3 didnt won anything in 2010... Stop acting like VGC knows everything they are probably off in EMA markets so shut up and accept that 360 destroyed Ps3.

Yeah. Wait shippment figures and eat that.