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Forums - Gaming - Rumor: Eurogamer source says NGP battery 4-5 hours, will be sold at a loss

pizzahut451 on 27 January 2011
Acevil said:
Wagram said:

Well i'm not going to lie. I'm not particularly happy with the battery life and I meantioned that strongly in the 3DS thread which if I remember correctly has a 3 - 5 hour battery life. However considering the power of the PSP2 I will not chew them out as much.


So wait let me get this straight? 3DS which has 3D in it, which uses more power than most devices (for example if you turn off 3D you give the device about 8 hours), you chewed them out, but this you are going to let it slide?

(This applies to every one who did it, and thinks this is alright, besides Hunter_alien, since he was one of the only people who actually accepted it both times)


Maybe it has something to do with NGP being more powerfull than Wii, 3DS and GameCube combined?



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psrock on 27 January 2011

the device doesnt have a name yet, I doubt battery life has been established yet. I would wait for sony to confirm it. 



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Gilgamesh on 27 January 2011
fwap said:

Sold at a loss? PS3 portable confirmed.


Sony sold every console at a loss, PSOne, PS2, PS3, PSP so it makes sense that the PSP2 would.



snfr on 27 January 2011

4-5 hours isn't bad I think. The PSP didn't really last much longer and considering the specs of the NGP it's actually pretty good.



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jarrod on 27 January 2011

I doubt all SKUs will be sold at a loss... probably just the lowest end variant, and even ten that SKU will probably make up a minority of the available supply.

 

That said, does a loss taking NGP mean we might not see any PS3 price cut this year?



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greenmedic88 on 27 January 2011
jarrod said:

I doubt all SKUs will be sold at a loss... probably just the lowest end variant, and even ten that SKU will probably make up a minority of the available supply.

 

That said, does a loss taking NGP mean we might not see any PS3 price cut this year?

If they go the iPad/iPhone/iPod price structuring offering multiple storage capacities, probably.

They may stand to break even or profit on the higher capacity 3G enabled SKUs.

I'm sure that in the instance of the NGP, 3G access subscription fees/plans will factor into the hardware pricing, much like current smartphones and 3G enabled devices.



greenmedic88 on 27 January 2011

Regarding the battery power, even an unsubstantiated report from an unconfirmed source; 4-5 hours isn't bad for a device with the processing power indicated by NGP specs alone.



jarrod on 27 January 2011
greenmedic88 said:

I'm sure that in the instance of the NGP, 3G access subscription fees/plans will factor into the hardware pricing, much like current smartphones and 3G enabled devices.

Possibly, but it depends on carriers.  For example the iPad doesn't have any sort of carrier subsidy in America (it's $20 a month subscription no matter what and you have to buy the hardware at full price), and in fact the 3G model is $100 more expensive off the bat too.  Kindles build in the subscription cost into their retail pricepoints (so you have "free" 3G, forever) but bandwidth is capped and slow, since it's intended for simply downloading small text files.

In the US at least, only smartphones really seem to get any sort of of subsidies from the network carriers.



greenmedic88 on 27 January 2011
jarrod said:
greenmedic88 said:

I'm sure that in the instance of the NGP, 3G access subscription fees/plans will factor into the hardware pricing, much like current smartphones and 3G enabled devices.

Possibly, but it depends on carriers.  For example the iPad doesn't have any sort of carrier subsidy in America (it's $20 a month subscription no matter what and you have to buy the hardware at full price), and in fact the 3G model is $100 more expensive off the bat too.  Kindles build in the subscription cost into their retail pricepoints (so you have "free" 3G, forever) but bandwidth is capped and slow, since it's intended for simply downloading small text files.

In the US at least, only smartphones really seem to get any sort of of subsidies from the network carriers.

I'm thinking the iPad 3G pricing plans will probably be the model for the NGP. Monthly flat fee, renewable each month. Somehow I just don't see any subsidized hardware being linked to 2 year service contracts with the NGP. With the PSP Phone on the other hand, it's practically a given.

Since it's going to be used for constant data sources (GPS, online gaming, etc.) it won't be a "free" service like the Kindle, which pretty much just uses 3G networks to give its customers the convenience of being able to access the store and purchase books anywhere 3G access is available.

If I had to make a guess as to how they'll handle the pricing, I'd say 3G will probably add $50 to the base price, and I'd expect 3G monthly plans to be similar, if not identical to those for the iPad.



jarrod on 27 January 2011
greenmedic88 said:
jarrod said:
greenmedic88 said:

I'm sure that in the instance of the NGP, 3G access subscription fees/plans will factor into the hardware pricing, much like current smartphones and 3G enabled devices.

Possibly, but it depends on carriers.  For example the iPad doesn't have any sort of carrier subsidy in America (it's $20 a month subscription no matter what and you have to buy the hardware at full price), and in fact the 3G model is $100 more expensive off the bat too.  Kindles build in the subscription cost into their retail pricepoints (so you have "free" 3G, forever) but bandwidth is capped and slow, since it's intended for simply downloading small text files.

In the US at least, only smartphones really seem to get any sort of of subsidies from the network carriers.

I'm thinking the iPad 3G pricing plans will probably be the model for the NGP. Monthly flat fee, renewable each month. Somehow I just don't see any subsidized hardware being linked to 2 year service contracts with the NGP. With the PSP Phone on the other hand, it's practically a given.

Since it's going to be used for constant data sources (GPS, online gaming, etc.) it won't be a "free" service like the Kindle, which pretty much just uses 3G networks to give its customers the convenience of being able to access the store and purchase books anywhere 3G access is available.

If I had to make a guess as to how they'll handle the pricing, I'd say 3G will probably add $50 to the base price, and I'd expect 3G monthly plans to be similar, if not identical to those for the iPad.

I think this is pretty much on... Siliconera confirmed 2 NGP SKUs too so I'm leaning towards a $299 "core" model and a $349 3G model, which will be seen a very competitive with the $249 3DS and the $229-$599 range of iOS devices.   Probably a $20 monthly subscription fee with AT&T in the US.