@Joelcool7:

He wasn't trying to convert anyone. he was stating fact and saying that he wanted everyone to be Christian. I don't see how that is trying to convert you it was stating fact and opinion.

If he wants people to become Christians, isn't it obvious that he wants to convert them?

Really you think that you telling someone your beliefs is offensive?

Depends on the beliefs. generally beliefs on how others should lead their lives are offensive.

I don't buy for a second that you don't want anyone to believe as you do, its human nature to want others to share your views.

I genuenly don't care what religious beleifs (or lack of) people have. Just as long as they don't try to affect my life, I'm fine with it.

are you saying every time you go on about your beliefs to users of VGChartz you are personally trying to offend them?

Only if I'm attacking them.

Fact is it isn't offensive you seem to be the only one offended by people sharing their different views with you or you with others.

I have a problem with people having views on how I should live my life and trying to impose them on me.

I myself do not find people of other faiths annoying.

Nor do I. I just find "missionaries" annoying.

While I disagree with their idealogies I like the fact that they actually care about my soul. They just want to save me and that is a good thing it shows their is humanity out their that people still care about one another.

The road to hell is paved with goood intentions... If you want to help people it would be better to do something that's actually usefull, like raising money for poor people etc., not wasting time trying to "save their souls". This isn't caring it's meddling, and is no different that the policies of Christians who forcefully converted natives from the Americas.

But saying such incites hatred and animosity something I didn't think you believed in.

What that guy said incetes hatred. That's why I called you a hypocrite. Because you called me on it, but didn't call him.

Proving my point, he wasn't being offensive he was just stating fact and opinion in a non-offensive fashion.

But his opinion is in itself offensive.

If you meant blind sheep maybe you should have said Blind sheep and explained your comment. Rather then saying silly Christian's. You aren't refering to just Christians your refering to people of all faiths who trust their leaders based on their religion. Also that doesn't make them silly their are more politically correct ways of saying that.

I don't care much for being PC. And yes, it makes them silly (it was the least offensive term I could come up with BTW).

Again he wasn't proselytising he was addressing Christians in a church.

He said "I want to become your brother". I doubt he was adressing the people in the Church, as they already were his "brotehrs/sisters".

What he says in the privacy of his church is not proselytising.

A Church isn't exactly a private place.

Anyways I find it funny that you are always talking about seperation of church and state and American laws and constinution and religion. When you yourself are Romanian. Then I a Canadian come in to defend the US laws and constition and always take the other end of the debate. While neither of us is American. That is sort of funny!

Well it's not my fault that nothing interesting ever happens in Romania, now is it?

Actually many significant founding fathers (ie. Thomas Jefferson) were not really Christians. They were Deists. Also simply having God mentioned in the constitution doesn't mean that everyone should convert to Christianity.

I didnt said they should. As for Thomas Jefferson, he believed in God, did he not? He also admired teachings of Jesus Christ a LOT and he was very bound to them. Doesnt chnage the fact that religion/God was in american politics from the beginning, so people shouldn't get so butthurt over this guy's statement. America IS a CHRISTIAN country, and just because you are not christian, doesnt mean you should get offended because someone said he/she is, especially if you live in christian country like America.

People aren't offended by him saying he's Christian. Of course not, almost all of your politicians do that.

It's him explicitly saying he wants people in his state to convert that is offending people.

Also America is not a Christian country, it really isn't. It's a secular country with a Christian majority - their is a very important and very explicit different between the two. Interstingly despite being largely secular in nature England actually is a Christian nation - it has a defined state religion in the Church of England.

Edit: Also admiring the teachings of Jesus doesn't make you a Christian, most Muslims respect his teachings - they even consider him a prophet.

America was never founded soully on Christianity as a state religion. It has always been a democracy not a theorocracy. However I have debated several times with others that several founding fathers were Christian, but whether they were on not doesn't matter as the US was not founded to be a theorocracy. Religious freedom was at its core. Now yes some laws and policies were inspired by Christianity and the Bible but it was still secular.

As for Christian majority making it a Christian state? it does and it doesn't. Christianity being the majority does not change the fact that the Government and institutions are secular. On paper the US is not a Christian country. But to the rest of the world it very much is, would you call Turkey or Egypt Muslim countries? Yes you probubly would however neither country has Islam as its state religion.

So yes and no. The US is a Christian majority nation so other countries likely view it as a Christian state. But legally it is not officially it is secular!

Christ mate, calm it down a bit. No need to get personal in this.

Where is it written, and against ther law, to promote one's religion when in office?  I would say that, if the person does it while they are in their role in office, that is an issue with the understanding of the establishment clause.  Beyond this though, saying this is in line with what the Christian faith says.  From a practical level, we are NOT all brothers and sisters.  Outside of genetics, there needs to be something to base similar belief on.  This doesn't mean people can't get along, and be neighbors.  But the term "brother and sister"?  I say he is correct there.  And he might as well be honest and say he does want to evangelize.

By the way, here is the first amendment:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

HAve you ever heard of deism? Look it up!