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This game will sell more then Halo 3 just on the ps3!

 

Im saying that there are so many people going to buy this game that it will outsell halo 3 on just ps3! 

 

I predict over 2.5 million pre orders but im just guessing out of my head theres probly 3 mil+



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KBG29 said:
This game will be just one of the reasons PS3 will be the top selling CE of 2008. Warner will go Blu-ray exclusive around CES, making Blu-ray the winner of the format war. Then the game flood gates will open with GTA, Home, Killzone, MGS4, GT5, and countless others. When we hit GTA launch period I expect 349.99 PS3, and a 299.99 pro 360. With thouse prices + Blu-ray = DVD successor + Major PS3 exclusives + what PSN will have become = Sony returning to the top of the home console charts with only one system (because the PS2 + PS3 far outdoes the Wii worldwide at the moment).

Home, Killzone? They aren't system sellers... it is so sad how people can fool themselves into beleiving whatever they want to. I bet Heavenly Sword, Lair, and Blacksite were on that list not to long ago...



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tokilamockingbrd said:
KBG29 said:
This game will be just one of the reasons PS3 will be the top selling CE of 2008. Warner will go Blu-ray exclusive around CES, making Blu-ray the winner of the format war. Then the game flood gates will open with GTA, Home, Killzone, MGS4, GT5, and countless others. When we hit GTA launch period I expect 349.99 PS3, and a 299.99 pro 360. With thouse prices + Blu-ray = DVD successor + Major PS3 exclusives + what PSN will have become = Sony returning to the top of the home console charts with only one system (because the PS2 + PS3 far outdoes the Wii worldwide at the moment).

Home, Killzone? They aren't system sellers... it is so sad how people can fool themselves into beleiving whatever they want to. I bet Heavenly Sword, Lair, and Blacksite were on that list not to long ago...


Yeap, you are right, but please, dont make to much fun about it, they have feelings too...

 

 

@ KBG29

"(because the PS2 + PS3 far outdoes the Wii worldwide at the moment)"

¿¿Are you a member of the SDF??



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tokilamockingbrd said:
KBG29 said:
This game will be just one of the reasons PS3 will be the top selling CE of 2008. Warner will go Blu-ray exclusive around CES, making Blu-ray the winner of the format war. Then the game flood gates will open with GTA, Home, Killzone, MGS4, GT5, and countless others. When we hit GTA launch period I expect 349.99 PS3, and a 299.99 pro 360. With thouse prices + Blu-ray = DVD successor + Major PS3 exclusives + what PSN will have become = Sony returning to the top of the home console charts with only one system (because the PS2 + PS3 far outdoes the Wii worldwide at the moment).

Home, Killzone? They aren't system sellers... it is so sad how people can fool themselves into beleiving whatever they want to. I bet Heavenly Sword, Lair, and Blacksite were on that list not to long ago...


Sadly enough your bet would be true ...



im surprised most people are using amazon as an indicator



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@ madskillz

I'll bet you that PS3 version of GTA4 sells 3/4 of what the 360 version does, thats to make up for the difference in consoles. If that doesn't happen, ill eat some sushi.



I know that Amazon isn't really indicative over sales trends, but I have a theory as to why PS3 will outpace it:

Most GTA players are probably current or former PS2 owners. They are looking for a game that says "I have to buy console A/console B for that game" and GTA might be it. HOWEVER, being PS2 owners, they also like games like MGS, Gran Turismo, and FF......so when they're preordering, they can either choose A) Get the PS3 version, and save money by having a PS3 when MGS, FF, etc comes out, or they can choose B) Get the 360 version, and then when those PS games come out they they want, they'll have to shell out another $400 just to play them.

So if I'm correct, then what sounds better, $400 now for PS3, plus $60 for GTA, and then $60 for each other PS3 exclusive that those gamers want to play or $349 now plus $60 for GTA......then when those other PS3 games come out, they would have to spend another $400, then $60 for each game?



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Say it with me now:

"Amazon is not a reliable indicator of sales"

If it were, DDR: Hottest Party would not be ranked #6. (Its ranked #96 on American sales for VGChartz) Why is this game #6? Lots of retailers are not stocking this game because shelf space is at a premium and the package is huge. There is likely a good reason why the PS3 version is outselling the 360 version on Amazon but that does not necessarily mean it will do nearly as well when it comes out.

I know you PS3 fans are desperate for even the slightest inkling of good news, but Amazon is not a good indicator of sales. 

 



Wow. Wiitards.. that's.. clever.

 



Sony has a major problem when it comes to 3rd party support. The 360 has reached a critical number of users - enough so that developers want to have their games available on that platform. Making a game that's exclusive for the PS3 doesn't make sense, because you eliminate all of those 360 owners. You would end up spending more development dollars optimizing a game for PS3's unique architecture, and you'd end up being able to sell your game to fewer customers.

Leveraging the PS3's power requires developers to learn a new way of programming, one heavily centered on parallel processing. In the beginning people assumed that it would just be a matter of time before PS3 programmers learned how to work with it, but that once they did, we'd start to see games looking much better on the PS3 than their counterparts on the 360. However, what we didn't consider was that making a game that truly took advantage of the PS3 would in turn make it a completely new development effort to port to the 360 (or PC). The two architectures are so different that to really take advantage of the hardware for both, you'd have to greatly increase the money and time you spend on a title. And in the end, you really wouldn't get enough extra money out of it to be worth it.

So what's the solution? Well, thus far it seems to be this: develop your games using the traditional programming techniques that work well with the 360 and PC's, and then port the code as directly as possible to the PS3, using only its main processor to handle the game. The PS3 is fast enough to handle this relatively well, though not quite as well as the 360. This is I believe why we're seeing games like Madden and now Orange Box coming to PS3 with the same graphics but poorer performance than the 360. It's the easiest, least expensive way for the developers to get 90% of the way there without greatly increasing their money and time expenditures.

At this point, most major developers have no interest in seeing the PS3 gain a dominant market share. In the end it could only mean they would have to spend more money on their own development without actually bringing in more money as a result. They're going to be very content with programming their games to be as portable across as many platforms as possible, and that means staying away from the platform-exclusive programming techniques that PS3 really requires to take advantage of its power.