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When will X360 overtake the PS2 in the UK?

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Michael-5 on 19 January 2011
AussieGecko said:
Michael-5 said:

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I dunno, if a Wii successor makes anywhere nearly as much of an impact on the casual market as the Wii did, I think it will steal the sales. I beleive Kinect is only doing well because the Wii is so old, people want something new. It is a sub-console, it's not meant to be a full console replacement.

Project Kingdoms is a new IP, but it's one of few, and not a first party title. Was God of War not released in 2005, the year the 360 came out? The bulk of the market is now focues on sequels, and the final installment in various trilogies. As I mentioned before, almost all of the big games of 2011 are sequels.

The last big 6th generation games released between 2004-2006, and I believe that last big seventh generation games will be released starting in 2011. If GT6 is a PS4 title, then we already can see one major franchise see it's final game this gen. Think about it, Uncharted, Mass Effect, Modern Warfare and Gears are the 3 big trilogies this gen, and they are all seeing their final installment this year. I doubt we will see a Resistance 4, Killzone 4, Forza 5, or InFAMOUS 3 this gen. MS only has an early map pack contract with Activision for CoD games up to and including 2012. Finally even if we see a Resident Evil 6, GTA V, or MGS 5, we won't see another one this generation.

I mean, whats left this gen when Call of Duty is over in 2012, Uncharted, Mass Effect, Gears and Forza are done in 2011? Kinect may push MS 360 sales for the next while, but if Sony and Nintendo make successor consoles, MS will follow.

Also I do not believe Project Kingdoms has any relation to Kinect what-so-ever. Project Dragon is a Kinect title, but there is strong evidence to beleive that Project Dragon is a Panzer Dragoon title, which would be a reboot of an old franchise, not a new IP, and still not first party.

As for the Unreal Engine 3, that engine is aging, you can see it's limitations in games like Mass Effect 2 and Gears 2. The Unreal Engine 4 has already been in development for quite some time now. It's only a short matter of time before a new gen is announced, and that a tech demo is reveiled.

Yeah you are right Kinect has no impacdt on Kingdoms BUT with them both together shows that Xbox360 is trying to push this gen a little further. I also understand Kingdoms is not first party but MS could simply have said make it for a new console and release it at the same time if they were aiming for 2013 for example.

Yes MS will follow the next consoles into the new gen but unless Wii 2 pushes graphics further than 360/ps3 MS will wait till sony releases theirs or when they are making it as they seem to do release them close to each other.

I think with Epic/Ms relations Unreal Engine could work for this gen. One hopes anyway. And the crytek engine could just be the start of this generation as they have announced in one of Nsanitys many many threads. They have also put weight to Kinect pushing a bit further down the road.

Again this gen is very different and we shouldn't compare. It wasn't that long ago where people thought that this would be the last gen.

Yea, but fall 2013 is still almost 3 years away. Most games take between 1-2 years to develop, and the really polished ones take 3-5 years. So making games for a successor console now, would make no sence. Also if Kingdoms were an early 720 title, instead of a 360 title, sales would probably suffer. Generally early launch games don't sell well as there is a lack of potential customers.

Wii didn't push graphics that much above Gamecube and it still managed to outsell the 360, and PS3, almost combined. It's not so much about graphical pushing power anymore, as it is about console and game design. Even the best selling "Hardcore" games are not exactly graphical beasts (Call of Duty, Halo, GTA).

MS will not realease a console 2 years or longer after Nintendo makes a successor to the Wii. So if Nintendo makes something for 2012, then MS will definatly make something for 2013, and the CoD Map pack deal ending in 2012 supports this theory of mine,

This gen is only different in others in that, there are 3 consoles, all selling well, and that the console lifetime is extended because the PS3/360 cost a boatload of cash at launch, and are still comming down in price to reasonable levels. When the average console lifespan is 5-6 years, it's really hard to expect massive console sales after 8 years. Sony themselves even announced that they expect the PS3 to have a 10 year long lifespan, that includes at least a couple years where it's no longer the primary console, just like PS2 is now.



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