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Jay520 said:

Title made me laugh. 

So used to seeing "delay" and "Playstation" in the same sentence. 


You my man, deserve a prize hahahahahahahahhahah



 

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thismeintiel said:
thranx said:

You do realize with out the individuals in those corporations nothing would happen. Its the people that create and make things, not corporations. The world advanced with out them and can continue to do so if they fail. Its the people that matter. It has everything to do with fair use. Why can I not use the hardware I buy to run programs I make or my friends or other companies make? I payed for it didn't I? I agree with the not pirating, you do not have the right to software unless you buy it or it is given to you. But if you think scientific advancements will stop because mega corporations fail you are wrong. All it takes is one person with time and resources to create something.

Yes, I realize that corporations are made up of individuals.  Do you?  See this is what I don't get when people talk about the "evil" corparations (not that you used that word, but your post gives me the impression you may feel that way).  Those same companies employ millions of people.  They create millions of products to meet the demand of millions of people.  What would happen if they have no protection under law, lose money, and then go under.  The economy and job market suffer greatly.  And the world may have advanced without them, but the world of technology would not be this far without them.  Someone invents something incredible, what does he do with it?  He sells it.  Now, how does he do so?  He creates a shop/small company.  Now if demand for his product rises, what does he do?  Stay small and do the best he can?  Of course not.  He expands.  Creating new shops in new areas, while hiring new people to run said stores.  And while demand is increasing, he keeps expanding.  Maybe pouring money into new products or just upgrading the previous one.  Then before you know it, he has himself a "mega corporation."  Of course, to keep doing well he needs to be protected by law from those who can do him harm, whether intentionally or not.

Again this what I don't get when some demonize corporations.  They need to realise that all started very small, usually as one store.  There was just a great demand for their products/services so they expanded.  That doesn't make them anymore evil than the local mom and pop store down the street.  Because trust me, if they were booming and there was need for them to expand, they would.

You really need to look up the difference between a corporation and a private company. Everything you stated can be done by an individual on his own who reinvests in himself to expand.

 

All of that is way besides the poitn everyone ios talking about. Which is the freedom to use the items you buy in the way you choose



thranx said:

You really need to look up the difference between a corporation and a private company. Everything you stated can be done by an individual on his own who reinvests in himself to expand.

 

All of that is way besides the poitn everyone ios talking about. Which is the freedom to use the items you buy in the way you choose

I do know there is a difference between corporations and a private company.  Mostly due to differences in ownership and legal structuring.  But as a private business expands greatly, they usually, if not always, become corporations.  Taking on multiple partners and interests.  In the end, the name of the game is the exact same, profit.  And really we have no idea how well this world would have advanced without corporations, as they date back the Roman times, a time of great advancement in about every aspect of life.



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Don't get me wrong, I give them massive props for taking the initiative and the drive to tell this story, but I've been watching that Patent Absurdity and it looks like a rough cut and still needs a lot of work. It's kind of a shame because it's an interesting topic.



go Sony! I really hope sony wins this thing. But i reaaaaallly hope they find away to protect the online experience for everyone.



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Come on Judge nail that monkeys ass to the wall.



Are the “metldr keys” considered Sony's intellectual property?



Sony is headed for a loss, imho.



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IllegalPaladin said:

@SSJ12

Don't get me wrong, I give them massive props for taking the initiative and the drive to tell this story, but I've been watching that Patent Absurdity and it looks like a rough cut and still needs a lot of work. It's kind of a shame because it's an interesting topic.


its not a multimillion dollar film. Its an indie documentary. The budget wasn't more that a couple thousand at best.

About the Film: Credits

  • Directed, Shot and Edited by Luca Lucarini
  • Produced by Jamie King
  • Animations by Christopher Allan Webber
  • Sound Mix by Matt Smith

Supported by:

Supported by a grant from the Free Software Foundation and made possible by the Associate Membership of the Free Software Foundation.

Made with free software

  • Cinelerra for video editing
  • Audacity for audio editing
  • Inkscape, Python and Blender for animation
  • Ogg Theora and Ogg Vorbis codecs
  • Edited on GNU/Linux machines

Website by Steve Rudolfi.

 

 

They used free software and stuff. Couple of hundred dollar budget at best.



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alekth said:

Why didn't they start with the ToS requirement for process in CA anyway, the PayPal/Youtube/Twitter angle seems so absurd.

With a consumer adhesion contract, most jurisdictions routinely refuse to enforce the choice-of-jurisdiction clause on the grounds of fairness and reasonableness; logically, there is no reason that a corporation which does business in all fifty states should be able to drag a consumer across the country (literally across the country, in this case) in order to settle a legal dispute.

I'm pretty confident this suit is going to get thrown out for lack of jurisdiction.  The real question is if Sony's going to bother renewing it in the proper venue.