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Mr Khan said:
Most of the prominent off-topic users just hang out here. Wesslewoggle and SciFiBoy did in their day, Highwaystar (though he seems to have disappeared as well), and Kasz, among others. It's like its own little bastion of VGC |
I still read the other forums, I just don't post there anymore.
In offtopic you can debate stuff and a lot of it is based on opinion, so even if someone else has a REALLY crackpot opinion, it's usually ok, because it's an opinion and it's somewhat hard to measure a number of this stuff.
While stuff in the sales forums are just outright insane. I mean, with so much numerical precedent you get the most crackpot made up predictions based on nothing, to the point of where you could drop a whole mountain of historical information on why it wouldn't work and the people wouldn't be phased.
Like a lot of people trying to blow off Kinect's success... even though it sold ridiculiously huge early numbers.
Kasz216 said:
I still read the other forums, I just don't post there anymore. In offtopic you can debate stuff and a lot of it is based on opinion, so even if someone else has a REALLY crackpot opinion, it's usually ok, because it's an opinion and it's somewhat hard to measure a number of this stuff.
While stuff in the sales forums are just outright insane. I mean, with so much numerical precedent you get the most crackpot made up predictions based on nothing, to the point of where you could drop a whole mountain of historical information on why it wouldn't work and the people wouldn't be phased. Like a lot of people trying to blow off Kinect's success... even though it sold ridiculiously huge early numbers. |
I also read and post on the other forums but have cut back a lot simply because there isn't much new or interesting to debate about ...
Most of the "big games" people talk about are sequels to games that have already been released this generation, or have been in development for so long that there isn't much to talk about; and there isn't much to debate which hasn't been debated endlessly for the past 4 years.
A survivor of Saturday’s shooting rampage in Tucson blamed Fox’s Glenn Beck, former Alaska gov. Sarah Palin, and former senatorial candidate Sharron Angle for the actions of alleged schizophrenic Jared Loughner.
“It looks like Palin, Beck, Sharron Angle and the rest got their first target,” Eric Fuller, a former campaigner for Ariz. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, told Democracy Now. “Their wish for Second Amendment activism has been fulfilled.”
Fuller, a 63-year-old disabled veteran, was at Giffords’s “Congress on Your Corner” event on Saturday when 22-year-old accused gunman Loughner opened fire. Fuller was shot in the knee and his back was wounded.
Since the massacre, Beck, Palin, and Angle have received ample criticism for instilling violence into American culture with “vitriolic rhetoric” and possibly influencing Loughner to carry out the shooting.
Palin has been condemned for creating a midterms 2010 elections map depicting rifle crosshairs over vulnerable districts, including Giffords’. Palin instructed followers, “Don’t retreat, reload.”
In a Fox News interview that aired over the weekend, Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik suggested Angle and Palin were partially to blame for the nation’s current state of violence.
“When you have people like Sharron Angle, in Las Vegas, running against Harry Reid, making outrageous statements such as ‘We may need to resort to taking the second amendment into certain cases,’ and for people like Sarah Palin to say ‘We have people like Gabby Giffords in our cross-hairs,’ I think those statements are totally irresponsible and they’re not without consequences,” Dupnik said. “And we are seeing them here.”
Angle said in a statement Wednesday that she condemns all violence. Palin wrote in email read by Glenn Beck Monday that she hates violence and war.
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Today:
Posted: Jan 15, 2011 2:51 PM CST
Reporters: Forrest Carr, Sheryl Kornman and Joel Waldman
TUCSON (KGUN9-TV) - Two things are clear from Saturday's ABC News town hall meeting in Tucson. One: Tucsonans are eager to move forward and recover from last week's horrible shooting rampage. And two: that process is going to be slow and painful. That latter point was driven home by the arrest of a shooting victim, who threatened a speaker during the taping of the program.
ABC News Anchor Christiane Amanpour hosted the remarkable gathering of victims, heroes, witnesses and first responders. It was the first time most of them had been together since Jared Lee Loughner opened fire in a Safeway parking lot, killing 6, and wounding or injuring 14 others -- a rampage that happened one week earlier almost to the hour.
On the platform with Amanpour were Col. Bill Badger, who helped tackle gunman Jared Lee Loughner; Daniel Hernandez, who ran to help wounded Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords while most people were ducking for cover, Patricia Maisch, who grabbed a magazine away from Loughner; Bill Hileman, whose wife, Susan, is still recovering from gunshot wounds.
On the front row was Kenneth Dorushka, who was shot shielding his wife from Loughner's gunfire; and J. Eric Fuller, who was shot in the knee.
Most of the event was devoted to a recounting of what had happened that terrible morning. Amanpour gently led the witnesses and survivors through the events, getting them to tell what they saw and experienced, and to talk about how they are coping.
Probably the most emotional moment came when Bill Hileman talked about his wife Susan's dual struggle: physical and emotional. The youngest victim who died in the shooting, 9 year old Christina Taylor Green, was there because she wanted to meet Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords. A neighbor took her to the "Congress On Your Corner" event. Susan Hileman was that neighbor. Bill Hileman said that his wife now struggles with the fact that she took a neighbor's child to the event, but was not able to bring her home again.
The theme of the event was "An American Conversation Continued" -- the idea being to continue the conversation that a madman's brutal rampage had interrupted. So it was inevitable that the conversation would eventually turn to politics. It did, toward the end, with Amanpour leading a discussion on a very touchy but obvious topic: gun control.
That's where the atmosphere turned tense. When Tucson Tea Party founder Trent Humphries rose to suggest that any conversation about gun control should be put off until after the funerals for all the victims, witnesses say Fuller became agitated. Two told KGUN9 News that finally, Fuller took a picture of Humphries, and said, "You're dead."
When State Rep. Terri Proud (R-Tucson) rose to explain and clarify current and proposed gun legislation in the state, several people groaned or booed her. One of those booing, according to several witnesses, was Fuller. Witnesses sitting near Fuller told KGUN9 News that Fuller was making them feel very uncomfortable.
The event wrapped up a short time later. Deputies then escorted Fuller from the room. As he was being led off, Fuller shouted loudly to the room at large. Several witnesses said that what they thought they heard him shout was, "You're all whores!"
Fuller, age 63, is a political operative who specializes in gathering petitions for ballot initiatives. Before the program began, he passed out business cards to people sitting around him that read:
"Signatures
"Expediting Initiatives since 2006
"J. Eric Fuller
"Political Circulator."
A Pima County Sheriff's spokesman told KGUN9 News that the department has charged Fuller with one count of threats and intimidation, and said they plan to charge him with at least one count of disorderly conduct. Humphries told KGUN9 News that he does plan to press those charges.
The irony could not be more pointed, or painful. One of the issues discussed in the town hall meeting was the question of why no police or mental health professionals had ever intervened with Jared Lee Loughner, despite his increasingly bizarre behavior that had included disruptive outbursts.
Afterwards, several participants told KGUN9 News that they hoped the outburst would not overshadow what they saw as the true message of the meeting: that Tucson is filled with good and decent people, and the community will get through this.
Among the dignitaries and community leaders present: Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz of Florida, who is a close personal friend of Giffords and who also sat on the platform with Amanpour; Tucson mayor Bob Walkup; Tucson Congressman Raúl Grijalva; former Tucson Congressman Jim Kolbe; and Father Richard Troutman of St. Odilia's Catholic Church, where the town hall took place.
Also on the platform: Pima County Sheriff's Bureau Chief Richard Kastigar, who gave an update on the investigation.
ABC did not allow KGUN9 to place a news photographer inside the meeting room during the program. However, ABC will broadcast the town hall meeting, entitled "After the Tragedy: An American Conversation Continued," Sunday. The network has given KGUN9-TV permission to air the broadcast twice. It can be seen at its regular time period of 7:00 AM Sunday (January 16) and also at 3:00 PM the same day.
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Holy shit. 
sapphi_snake said:
How can you be a "legal" gun owner if you don't have a permit? That sounds like an oxymoron. And how can you be allowed to own a gun without passing some sort of psychiatric evaluation? That's just retarded! |
In most states, and historically in all of the US, there is no permit to own a gun. Historically, there was no permit to carry a gun, although most states have no enacted such permits.
So is such states, such as New Hampshire, Vermont, Maine and so on, a legal gun owner is someone that is legally allowed to own a gun. This may mean no felonies on a person's record or no history of failing psychiatric evaluations.
In the US, people are born with the right to own a gun. Apparently, it is a right that can be removed but a right nontheless. Owning a gun isn't like owning a TV, a car or a cell phone. Those aren't rights.
The New Hampshire system isn't retarded. In fact, I don't think that it legally goes far enough. I don't think the gun laws in any of the US states are in line with the 2nd Amendment of the US Consitution just yet. Hopefully in 10 years or so there will be a lot less gun laws in the US in general and NH too.
I understand you aren't from a place that prides itself as the most free place in the world, but that's what meaning of us are trying to do in NH. It's understanding about you have so much faith in government and put safety before rights. Where I come from, rights come first. That's how I was able to defeat the proposed seat belt law in 2009 in NH. Can you believe some people in government, they actually wanted to ticket adults if they didn't wear a seat belt in a car? Heck, our state motto is Live Free or Die. Many of us take it seriously.
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I was tempted to start another thread on this, but felt maybe I should just keep it in here.
Did you know there are communists in the government now plotting to take over? I was informed of this by individuals I met at a Tea Party meeting. I bring this up, to ask exactly what would qualify as speech that would drive people to act in an unbalanced manner? I am sure there are genuine concerns about communst leaning individuals in the U.S government, but at what point is beating these drums based on unconfirmed speculations, something that would be considered responsible for anything?
Well, one can go, "pshaw! Speech is free, and people are up to say anything they like, because it is just words". Well, my understanding is that people use their free speech to affect change in society. So, isn't there a place to call people on and discuss whether something is accurate or not, and speak out against speech that labels people as threats who aren't? When Sharron Angle speaks of "second amendment remedies", and people being driven to use them soon, because of how Congress is close to implementing a totalitarian state (labeling the entire congress as traitors), why not call her on it? I know one can think of such as MAYBE being reality, but if it isn't, then what? When such is done to get votes, what does that say about the nature of things?
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The insights of this study are interesting to review in light of the Arizona shooting, though obviously we still don't know that much about Jared Loughner, the suspect in the attack, or his motives. Perhaps the most interesting finding is that according to Fein and Vossekuil, assassinations of political figures were almost never for political reasons.
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And one thing Borum and Fein say about choosing a political figure — as opposed to choosing a show-business celebrity — is that the would-be assassins are able to associate themselves with a broader political movement or goal. That allows them to see themselves as not such a bad person. In this way, Borum says, assassins are basically murderers in search of a cause.
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http://www.npr.org/2011/01/14/132909487/fame-through-assassination-a-secret-service-study
| richardhutnik said: When such is done to get votes, what does that say about the nature of things? |
It says that a lot of people harbor an intense distrust of the government. With good reason, I'd say.
Why is everyone suddenly wetting their pants over incivility now when:
1. the shooting had nothing whatsoever to do with incivility?
2. many of the same people who are presently clutching their skirts and shrieking, "Eek! An incivility!" were going on TV and calling Bush a fascist on a nightly basis (Olbermann), having a good chuckle that some people were disappointed about Cheney not being killed in a suicide bombing and even seeming to justify their feelings by saying that if "he had died, others would live" (Bill Maher), comparing U.S. soldiers to Nazis and the Khmer Rouge (Dick Durbin), and publicly masturbating to death porn (seemingly every leftist who saw Death of a President) just a few short years ago?
Kinda reminds me of that chick at Jon Stewart's rally who was all aghast that people are depicting Obama as Hitler. When the Reason guy sarcastically agreed and remarked that no one ever compared Bush to Hitler, she said without a hint of irony, "Oh, yeah. Well, I hate to say it, but if anyone was ever like Hitler it was him."
So, yeah. Pshaw, speech is free, and civility is a two way street.
Only idiots would use this to reinforce their political views... This had nothing to do with politics.
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