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Is Final Fantasy On The Verge Of Collapse?

Yes 135 56.49%
 
No 104 43.51%
 
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hikaruchan on 07 January 2011
twesterm said:
Alphachris said:
twesterm said:

That's why I say they're on the verge of collapse.  The Final Fantasy series is a joke.  Other than looking pretty and decent music, they have nothing going for them.  I'm sorry, but if you want me to spend more than 60 hours on a game it better be fun, it better have interesting characters, and it better have a good story.  FFXIII had none of those things.

So that's the yes.  I say no also because for some reason people keep buying the games.  I admit I bought FFXIII (used) and FFXIV (because FFXI) but there's almost no chance of me buying FFXV whatever it is.


It is funny. For me FF XIII was my best gaming experience this generation so far. I had very much fun, it had very interesting characters and it had a real deep story in my opinion. To be honest, it is one of only a few games that actually have characters with their own morals and a story to speak about nowadays.

Look at this quote from wikipedia:

"Final Fantasy XIII was rated at 39/40 from the Japanese gaming magazine Famitsu, with three reviewers giving the maximum 10/10 and one reviewer giving 9/10.[96] Dengeki praised the game for the battle system, stating that the battles are by far the most exciting in the series, and concluded Final Fantasy XIII deserved a score of 120, and that 100 would not be enough.[103] The game was voted as the second best game of 2009 in Dengeki Online's reader poll,[104] and in January 2010, was voted the best game ever in Famitsu's reader poll.[105]"

So it got very good critics as well and is regarded a very good game in Japan. It good good reviews here in europe too, but there very pretty harsh critics, too. But just seeing this bad critics and proclaim the downfall of the whole series while it got so many praise at the same time is pretty one-sided.

 


You don't much about Famitsu do you?  Well, actually I don't either but I do know one thing: be dubious of any 39/40 score from Famitsu.  That is their honor score (or whatever they call it) and they give that to certain highly hyped games.  A 38/40 and a 40/40 from Famitsu might mean something but a 39/40 is meaningless.

If you do not know anything about Famitsu then your opinion on there scoring system is null and void.  



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Boutros on 07 January 2011

What's this PDD1 and PDD2 stuff?



PhantomLink on 07 January 2011
Boutros said:

What's this PDD1 and PDD2 stuff?

I think it refers to Development Divisions



Why don't you make like a tree and get out of here?

Boutros on 07 January 2011
PhantomLink said:
Boutros said:

What's this PDD1 and PDD2 stuff?

I think it refers to Development Divisions

And do you know which one worked on what?

I can't seem to find it when I google it.



reaver_x on 07 January 2011

FF as a franchise is still doing well sales wise. however the quality of the series has gone down a lot since FFX and it will only continue to get worse as long goofballs like Wada are running the show over there. But personally i hope FF tanks that way it opens to door to other JRPG's to excel in popularity. games like the Last story or the Persona series which are already far better than any FF game in recent memory




 

 

                     

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PhantomLink on 07 January 2011
Boutros said:
PhantomLink said:
Boutros said:

What's this PDD1 and PDD2 stuff?

I think it refers to Development Divisions

And do you know which one worked on what?

I can't seem to find it when I google it.

I think that SE have a total of 10 team. I cant give you a full list but i think that the first 8 teams are from Square and the other 2 from Enix.

PDD1 worked on Final Fantasy XIII

PDD2 is in charged of the Crystal Chronicles and SaGa games

PDD3 did Final Fantasy XIV

PDD4 worked on Final Fantasy XII

PDD9 Dragon Quest

as for the others I have no idea :P

 

EDIT. Here is a link to wikipedia, search Productions Teams, it only list the name of the series though and I'm not sure how accurate is.



Why don't you make like a tree and get out of here?

jarrod on 07 January 2011
PhantomLink said:
Boutros said:
PhantomLink said:
Boutros said:

What's this PDD1 and PDD2 stuff?

I think it refers to Development Divisions

And do you know which one worked on what?

I can't seem to find it when I google it.

I think that SE have a total of 10 team. I cant give you a full list but i think that the first 8 teams are from Square and the other 2 from Enix.

PDD1 worked on Final Fantasy XIII

PDD2 is in charged of the Crystal Chronicles and SaGa games

PDD3 did Final Fantasy XIV

PDD4 worked on Final Fantasy XII

PDD9 Dragon Quest

as for the others I have no idea :P

PDD1: Kitase & Nomura (FFX/XIII, mainline Kingdom Hearts, etc)

PDD2: Kawazu (FFCC, SaGa, took over FFXII, etc)

PDD3: Tanaka (FFXI/XIV)

PDD4: ex-Quest people (FFT, FFXII, Ogre)

PDD5: Square Enix Osaka (Musashi, Mario Sports, spinoff Kingdom Hearts)

PDD6: ex-G-Craft people (Front Mission) this team might be gone now

PDD7: Tokita (Hanjuku Hero, FF remakes, etc) tiny team that usually works with outside devs

PDD8: Ishii (Mana) this team's defunct, most of them left to form Grezzo Games 

PDD9: Horii (Dragon Quest) aka: Armor Project, always works with outside devs

PDD10: Rest of the old Enix producers (tri-Ace RPGs, Nier, Mindjack, etc) always works with outside devs

 

 

...I'm pretty sure Square Enix has reorganized and has a new R&D structure, but I dunno what it is.



ryuzaki57 on 07 January 2011

Oh yes I almost forgot the Sakaguchi issue... I f this guy is to blame, it's for releasing The Last  Story on Wii! Honestly did he do a proper market analysis before this? PS3 RPG sales per system sold is way higher on PS3 than on Wii! However ambitious the Last Story might be, releasing it on Wii makes it not ambitious at all. 



 

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Boutros on 07 January 2011
jarrod said:
PhantomLink said:
Boutros said:
PhantomLink said:
Boutros said:

What's this PDD1 and PDD2 stuff?

I think it refers to Development Divisions

And do you know which one worked on what?

I can't seem to find it when I google it.

I think that SE have a total of 10 team. I cant give you a full list but i think that the first 8 teams are from Square and the other 2 from Enix.

PDD1 worked on Final Fantasy XIII

PDD2 is in charged of the Crystal Chronicles and SaGa games

PDD3 did Final Fantasy XIV

PDD4 worked on Final Fantasy XII

PDD9 Dragon Quest

as for the others I have no idea :P

PDD1: Kitase & Nomura (FFX/XIII, mainline Kingdom Hearts, etc)

PDD2: Kawazu (FFCC, SaGa, took over FFXII, etc)

PDD3: Tanaka (FFXI/XIV)

PDD4: ex-Quest people (FFT, FFXII, Ogre)

PDD5: Square Enix Osaka (Musashi, Mario Sports, spinoff Kingdom Hearts)

PDD6: ex-G-Craft people (Front Mission) this team might be gone now

PDD7: Tokita (Hanjuku Hero, FF remakes, etc) tiny team that usually works with outside devs

PDD8: Ishii (Mana) this team's defunct, most of them left to form Grezzo Games 

PDD9: Horii (Dragon Quest) aka: Armor Project, always works with outside devs

PDD10: Rest of the old Enix producers (tri-Ace RPGs, Nier, Mindjack, etc) always works with outside devs

 

 

...I'm pretty sure Square Enix has reorganized and has a new R&D structure, but I dunno what it is.

Alright thanks to the both of you!



jarrod on 07 January 2011
ryuzaki57 said:

Oh yes I almost forgot the Sakaguchi issue... I f this guy is to blame, it's for releasing The Last  Story on Wii! Honestly did he do a proper market analysis before this? PS3 RPG sales per system sold is way higher on PS3 than on Wii! However ambitious the Last Story might be, releasing it on Wii makes it not ambitious at all. 

The Last Story is a 1st party game.  If it wasn't on Wii, it likely wouldn't exist.

Maybe Gooch looked at overall software sales and noticed Wii games can actually pass multiple millions?  That's what the mainstream does for you, that's mainly why Wii got Monster Hunter and Dragon Quest.  I hope for the best with The Last Story, but I doubt it's the sort of game that would pass 500k on any system... being on PS3 wouldn't have helped.  At least on Wii it's been paid for by Nintendo.