ah, you'll have to excuse me then, I was responding to other comments within the thread, moreso than the OP.

The only problem I have with helping someone quit is by telling them they won't die, or showing lungs, etc. In the mind of a smoker, those things don't work.

What works is actual help. You tell yourself, "I'm going to do this because I said I would do it, and my word means nothing otherwise", or "substitute smoking with pushups. Everytime you feel the urge to smoke, go to the bathroom and do 10 pushups", or "continue as normal, but don't inhale once you taste how disgusting the cigarettes are, you will easily kick the habit".

To me these "solutions" of showing a cancerous lung etc, are simply the solutions of people who have never smoked a day in their life.

actually, that makes YOU a major douche. :P

When I smoke at a bus-stop I always smoke downwind and away from other people, and when people do what you describe I find it extremely annoying. I don't tell you how to live your life, and I do my best with what I'm given, but there's always someone out there who thinks it's their job to tell me how to live mine.

i cannot speak for me, but i can tell you it worked for my father. you can not claim to know what helps for a person, as you cannot claim to know that "nothing will help"

but of course nothing will help if you don't want to quit.

but one thing i know for sure. telling him it's ok to smoke for whatever reason, is the least helpful of things in this thread!

Let me guess smoking cigs have great benefits and it's all a consipracy. lol

so, basically he is saying it doesn't matter if you smoke or not and that it is the city that gives you lung cancer? does that really sound reasonable?

ok, two questions:

does he smoke?

and

does he realize by stating this he is actually spreading propaganda as well, just in another direction?

oh, and by the way, here is a link comparing city dwellers lungs to smokers lungs, but of course that's all lies and propaganda, right?

http://www.healingtalks.com/health/alternative-healing/detoxification-health/stop-smoking/pictures-of-smokers-and-non-smokers-lungs/

specifically, I, agree with you. I find it hard to eat out all the time, and I make most of my own food. But I also do not presume that other people have as much choice in the matter as I do.

Except it takes almost no time or effort to make healthy food.  Those people do have a choice.  Not having time isn't a valid excuse in the slightest.  A lot of health food takes all the time of "Drop ingreidents into pot and wait a half hour."    To make salad you drop lettuce in a bowl.  You can get bagged lettuce with carrots and stuff inside and it's more cost effective then anything you'll get at fast food.  Outside like, Del Taco and their 39 cent tacos.

There is a good reason SOME people don't eat healthy but it's got shit to do with "not having time."

The reason some people don't eat healthy is because they don't own a car.  Which means it's a lot harder to get to grocery stores as you can't carry more then two-three bags on the bus, and more often then not fast food places and convience stores that carry mostly unhealthy stuff are likely to be located next to areas where such people live.

If you've got a car, you've got no excuse.

I think you need to re-read what I wrote ... No where did I claim that smoking was healthy, or that just living in a city caused cancer.

Besides that, don't you think that people who breath in air like the following image might end up with grey/black lungs that make it difficult to determine whether they smoke?

and these people riding their bikes in the middle of the road, they are in danger of getting run over by a truck, but that is not relevant either to the case at hand. did you even look at my link?