Kasz216 said:
Againt the military as an instiution? Seriously? How do you plan to... not be invaded without a military? |
By whom? The evil desert people?
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sapphi_snake said:
By whom? The evil desert people? |
You're kidding right? You do know the country to the North of you half fears being invaded by another country and the other half seems to want that to be the case. A country that previously invaded them, and you!
I mean, it it was only like 50 years ago. I mean hell, you didn't even get rid of the legacy of said invasion till like 1989. How young are you that you are ignoring this lesson of history?
The whole "people won't invade you because your economy is too important" arguement only actually works if you have an important economy.
Even then, it's a silly arguement because it expects
A) all country leaders to think rationally.
B) country leaders not thinking "Hey it will make the economy crash for a while but when it recovers we will have control of that economy."
| Kasz216 said: You're kidding right? You do know the country to the North of you half fears being invaded by another country and the other half seems to want that to be the case. A country that previously invaded them, and you! I mean, it it was only like 50 years ago. I mean hell, you didn't even get rid of the legacy of said invasion till like 1989. How young are you that you are ignoring this lesson of history? The whole "people won't invade you because your economy is too important" arguement only actually works if you have an important economy. Even then, it's a silly arguement because it expects A) all country leaders to think rationally. B) country leaders not thinking "Hey it will make the economy crash for a while but when it recovers we will have control of that economy." |
Yeah, yeah, I know about Ukraine and all. And I know about Russia (actually the Soviet Union back then) and communism and all.
But from my knowledge the Romanian military's main recent objectives have been aiding yanks in illegal invasions of middle eastern countries, issue that doesn't really concern us.
Wars cause instability and are more trouble than they're worth. They're also always immoral. If people (regardless of the country they may live in) had any sense they'd rise up against any leader who wants to start a war (that is not in the best interest of anyone), rather than being manipulated by pro-war nationalistic propaganda.
And I'm aware that not all country leaders think rationally, hence why people should be careful for whom they vote (and if they can't choose their leaders, they should be doing something about that).
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sapphi_snake said:
Yeah, yeah, I know about Ukraine and all. And I know about Russia (actually the Soviet Union back then) and communism and all. But from my knowledge the Romanian military's main recent objectives have been aiding yanks in illegal invasions of middle eastern countries, issue that doesn't really concern us. Wars cause instability and are more trouble than they're worth. They're also always immoral. If people (regardless of the country they may live in) had any sense they'd rise up against any leader who wants to start a war (that is not in the best interest of anyone), rather than being manipulated by pro-war nationalistic propaganda. And I'm aware that not all country leaders think rationally, hence why people should be careful for whom they vote (and if they can't choose their leaders, they should be doing something about that). |
So in otherwords... your plan is to get rid of your army and hope for the best? Doesn't sound logical quite honestly. Remidns me of Sci-Fi Boys form of Star Trek Communism ignorign the fact that we don't have the technology that makes Star Trek Communism work but insisting that said technology will eventually exist. Which you know, does jack for the here and now.
It's all good to be against all weapons and food dispensers and magicial food dispensers and immortality potions. None of that really helps with the present. It's funny though, because I just watched "The Day the Earth Stood Still" yesterday. The original.
It's a funny and terrifying movie, partially because the big reveal seemed to be the advocacy of space facism.
dunno001 said:
For the questions where I need more information, yes. Not everything is black and white as the test seems to want to imply. |
That's always been my issue with this test.
I scored 100% Personal and 90% Economic, but many of those issues I didn't 100% agree with, and the one "maybe" is one with which I have pretty specific caveats.
Kasz216 said:
So in otherwords... your plan is to get rid of your army and hope for the best? Doesn't sound logical quite honestly. Remidns me of Sci-Fi Boys form of Star Trek Communism ignorign the fact that we don't have the technology that makes Star Trek Communism work but insisting that said technology will eventually exist. Which you know, does jack for the here and now. It's all good to be against all weapons and food dispensers and magicial food dispensers and immortality potions. None of that really helps with the present. It's funny though, because I just watched "The Day the Earth Stood Still" yesterday. The original.
It's a funny and terrifying movie, partially because the big reveal seemed to be the advocacy of space facism. |
To be fair, Russia seems more concerned about economic imperialism than military-political imperialism, at least as far as Europe's concerned (everywhere else Russia has a hand in, less so)
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Mr Khan said:
To be fair, Russia seems more concerned about economic imperialism than military-political imperialism, at least as far as Europe's concerned (everywhere else Russia has a hand in, less so) |
Where economic imperialism works in anycase.
They're making good inroads in the Ukraine due to various threats and economic sanctions, though the roadmap seems to have been built in the breakaway georgian regions. Put in puppet rulers, who are Russia lower government officals and slowly integrate them into russia. Is there any doubt in your mind they will be absorbed into Russia?
It's a clever way to avoid the problem the Israeli's have.
Should such economic and political meddling fail, like it has so far in Georgia proper... would it really be unlikely to expect the tanks to go rolling in?
Mr Khan said:
I think it's identified as something the right advocates, is it not? An anti-illegal immigrant initiative, if i'm not mistaken, though i rather like the idea myself, merely for effeciency purposes: one national register of all citizens to be identified by local, state, and federal officials all over the country, and can be modified to include if the person is licensed to drive or to hunt or whatever I like the idea, but for a different reason |
Yep, I like the idea too. Don't see how anyone could be against it.
| Kasz216 said: So in otherwords... your plan is to get rid of your army and hope for the best? Doesn't sound logical quite honestly. Remidns me of Sci-Fi Boys form of Star Trek Communism ignorign the fact that we don't have the technology that makes Star Trek Communism work but insisting that said technology will eventually exist. Which you know, does jack for the here and now. It's all good to be against all weapons and food dispensers and magicial food dispensers and immortality potions. None of that really helps with the present. It's funny though, because I just watched "The Day the Earth Stood Still" yesterday. The original.
It's a funny and terrifying movie, partially because the big reveal seemed to be the advocacy of space facism. |
I never said I'd like the army to dissappear (yet), I said that in an ideal situation there shouldn't be an army (in my country or in any country). Armed conflicts aren't really in people's best interest (for several reasons), and if people could realise that the army could dissappear as in institution everywhere in the world.
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