Now heres the thing 3rd party claim that they are doing what ever it takes to get out of the PS3, but frankly i dont see that happening. As compared to 1st party developers, it is them who gets  out the most from the PS3.

yes yes MGS4 was one of the very few games that got out of the PS3, but how many 3rd party games do that today.

you thoughts

I thought the AC games looked very good, especially for open world.

It depends on the engine beeing used. UE3 games will never unlock the full potential of the PS3.But if they use an engine optimized for both ps3 and xbox360... it could be possible. We'll see in 2011 what Cry Engine 3,  id Tech 5 and the modified UE3 for Bioshock Infinite can do for the PS3.

All they really need to do is put stuff into infinite loop to put it at 110%.

I thought Red Dead Redemption looked really beautiful, and that was even multiplat.

I still thinking that PS3 is bad designed in terms of hardware The Powerfull processor with the rubish graphic card and memory ram make it weak, and about 3rd party games i don realy think they can do, not even the first party games can do that, *thinks on GT5* SONY make the bad choice on that on...

they just don't bother to do that cause PS3 is not the best selling console, when PS3 became no.1, i think they will...

BFT

Yeah, they really screwed up the Memory part of the Ps3... If it had 1 GB of RAM for probably a couple dozen bucks more, it would have been maybe 5x more powerful than it is now, and the Xbox would have had almost nothing on it in terms of hardware.

Are you saying the PS3 is lazy?