Mummelmann said:
Yes I am, people go on and on about how desintized we are to violence and makes it sound as if all kids are ticking time bombs ready to kill because they watch movies and play games. Where is this incredible violent behavior everyone is talking about? There were more brawls and upstarts fifty years ago when people had the balls to confront people and start shit alone. Its not a pathetic excuse, some people (especially from the US) make people sound like ravenous madmen whose minds are being destroyed by videogames and turning them into flesh hungry killing drones. This is gross polarization of arguments. One side claims that violence in games in not a big deal at all(I'm not one of those btw, like I've stated, kids should not play M rated or adult only games, its not the intended audience at all) and the other is basically saying that HD consoles are evil products that will taint your soul and drive you to murder or violent behavior. Blaming videogames is so easy, and parents who find their kid playing a game they shouldn't or watching a movie they shouldn't have a tendency to demonize the product itself and it's makers instead of accepting that they screwed up and aren't paying enough attention to the fact that their kids are getting hold of age inappropriate material. As for the rest of your post; 1: The OP comes off as thinking that all HD games are violent and that those are the only kind of games you'll find on a 360/PS3 2: OP says he will refuse his kids to own a HD console for said reason, refer to my point about the DVD player; availablility of movies/games unsuited are a poor excuse to outright ban a product. He should also quickly dispose of his PC and/or smartphone. 3: Your point about being more likely to end up with an inappropriate game. Let me repeat myself; parents are responsible for what their kids are watching/playing and if kids own these games (they probably even buy them from the allowance the parents give them or the parents outright buy them for them) its the parents who are failing to do their job. See a game with an 18 year age limit? Don't buy it for your 10 year old, its not that hard. 4: Its not about whether the bestseller list has violent games or not on it, the OP seems to think that all HD games are violent and no Wii games are. By his logic, the Wii should not be in his house since you can get Madworld, No More Heroes, Call of Duty and lots of other violent games on it. 5: What do you have a against HD consoles? Almost all your posts seem to be another heavy step in some kind of crusade against them and their games. I haven't seen you utter a single positive word about either of them. Do you hate the PC as well? You should, it has even more violent games and unlimited access to the internet which has all kinds of twisted stuff ready for finding. It seems almost personal for you. Why do I care about all this? Because I see yet another irrational argument put forth by a parent who would rather the world stopped presenting challenges in the form of things you have to watch to keep your children from harm (or possible harm anyway) and keeps chanting about things in black and white. Its the "videogames are making kids violent" debate all over again, only from a slightly different angle. |
You must be reading it wrong or something; no one is trying to make it sound as if kids are becoming serial killers (not in this thread, at the very least). I, for one, am not saying that videogames lead to violence at all - they just desensitize them. Earlier, a teenager would cry at knowing someone who dies, now, they'd be used to it and would barely be able to sympathize. That's what I dislike about violent games, not it turning kids into time bombs. If you wanna argue against those who think that video games make kids evil and that HD consoles are made by the Devil, then I ask you to argue against them. I'm not arguing that at all. Oh, and sure, let's blame the parents. I don't disagree with that, but what difference will it make? Most of them whose children are getting ahold of this stuff simply don't care. I agree that it would be better if those parents would fix this, but they won't, and in that case, I feel that something should still be done about that which is having a negative effect on society (this in no way means boycotting the products, though).
1) He's not saying that, as far as I can tell. He says they are prevalent, that there are more of them and that they are more popular/successful on those consoles.
2) I admit I don't have any studies on this, but I'm pretty sure that the rate of kids getting inappropriate material for their age is higher on PS3/360 than it is on DVD players/PCs/Phones.
3) Well, considering how often kids do get this stuff, parents are either irresponsible or don't care. Either way, this is hurting society and, if the parents don't do anything about it, I really think some measures need to be taken.
4) Where does he say that every single game on HD is violent and no Wii game is? I only skimmed through the OP, but I didn't get that impression at all. He came off as saying "most" and "few" to me.
5) I'm not quite sure where you're getting this. Obviously, I dislike the HD consoles so I'm not gonna be singing jolly songs about them all the time, but I have given credit where credit is due. I seem to recall saying Kinect is selling well a lot of times, albeit most of the time, I was expressing this before posting a criticism of some sort. Almost every time when I've said something bad about a HD product, I've always said "it's selling well" at some point in the post because usually it is, but fans are trying to insinuate ridiculous things such as "lolol this is WAY ahead of expectations" or "UNDERTRACK!!!!".
By the way, the reason I don't like the HD consoles is because I do not enjoy or appreciate their software, not this. If this were the sole reason I do not enjoy them, I would absolutely detest PC. And, I'm sorry - I don't mean to be rude at all - but you seem far more personally affected by this than me. You gave me a huge paragraph and 5 separate points to respond to two small paragraphs.
You're even getting me heated up, :P. This is the first ":P" or "xD" I used to lighten the tone of the post, and I generally make them like once per sentence, :O. Even if you're getting tired of these arguments, you really don't need to vent your anger regarding similar arguments towards one. You're making too many stereotypes, I think.
Oh, and this post may have a huge amount of factual inaccuracies, hypocrisies, biased content and annoying rubbish in general. Don't blame me, :P, I was bored so I started writing this post then I got tired halfway through and just started writing whatever I felt like, :D.
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