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Pirateogta on 27 December 2010
psrock said:
Pirateogta said:

I will never trust Sony's shipment numbers since they released their numbers for the April-June 2010 quarter. Every sales tracker (NPD, Media Create, VGChartz, GFK, Chart-Track) showed that the PS3 had sold less units in that quarter compared to the last quarter (Jan-Mar). Then Sony's numbers came out and they had shipped more units than the previous quarter. How is that possible. They sold considerably less than the last quarter, but shipped more units...

It's clear that Sony tracks PS3s shipped differently than Microsoft tracks the 360, or they are just overshipping every quarter. It's getting pretty ridiculous. That will be the final nail in the coffin if they actually report they shipped more than the 360 in the Oct-Dec quarter, when the 360 is outselling the PS3 by almost a million in one month alone in just one region, according to NPD. The December NPD could possibly have the 360 ahead of the PS3 by 2 million if this trend keeps up, and there's no way anyone will be fooled into believing Sony's shipment numbers this quarter, with Kinect and the 360's incredible performance.

what would happen if Sony shipped more than MS this quater?


Nothing would happen, we'd just know that something fishy was going on with Sony's shipment numbers. In that case, we might as well stop comparing Sony's numbers to the other consoles' numbers, because it would be clear that they are not calculating their numbers in the same way as Nintendo or Microsoft. Obviously, there's no way that the PS3 has outsold the 360 in this quarter, so if the numbers come out again and Sony says they've shipped more than the 360, then we can all have a good laugh.



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psrock on 27 December 2010
Pirateogta said:
psrock said:
Pirateogta said:

I will never trust Sony's shipment numbers since they released their numbers for the April-June 2010 quarter. Every sales tracker (NPD, Media Create, VGChartz, GFK, Chart-Track) showed that the PS3 had sold less units in that quarter compared to the last quarter (Jan-Mar). Then Sony's numbers came out and they had shipped more units than the previous quarter. How is that possible. They sold considerably less than the last quarter, but shipped more units...

It's clear that Sony tracks PS3s shipped differently than Microsoft tracks the 360, or they are just overshipping every quarter. It's getting pretty ridiculous. That will be the final nail in the coffin if they actually report they shipped more than the 360 in the Oct-Dec quarter, when the 360 is outselling the PS3 by almost a million in one month alone in just one region, according to NPD. The December NPD could possibly have the 360 ahead of the PS3 by 2 million if this trend keeps up, and there's no way anyone will be fooled into believing Sony's shipment numbers this quarter, with Kinect and the 360's incredible performance.

what would happen if Sony shipped more than MS this quater?


Nothing would happen, we'd just know that something fishy was going on with Sony's shipment numbers. In that case, we might as well stop comparing Sony's numbers to the other consoles' numbers, because it would be clear that they are not calculating their numbers the same as Nintendo or Microsoft. Obviously, there's no way that the PS3 has outsold the 360 in this quarter, so if the numbers come out again and Sony says they've shipped more than the 360, then we can all have a good laugh.

There will be some laughing alright



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stopstopp on 29 December 2010
Pirateogta said:
psrock said:
Pirateogta said:

I will never trust Sony's shipment numbers since they released their numbers for the April-June 2010 quarter. Every sales tracker (NPD, Media Create, VGChartz, GFK, Chart-Track) showed that the PS3 had sold less units in that quarter compared to the last quarter (Jan-Mar). Then Sony's numbers came out and they had shipped more units than the previous quarter. How is that possible. They sold considerably less than the last quarter, but shipped more units...

It's clear that Sony tracks PS3s shipped differently than Microsoft tracks the 360, or they are just overshipping every quarter. It's getting pretty ridiculous. That will be the final nail in the coffin if they actually report they shipped more than the 360 in the Oct-Dec quarter, when the 360 is outselling the PS3 by almost a million in one month alone in just one region, according to NPD. The December NPD could possibly have the 360 ahead of the PS3 by 2 million if this trend keeps up, and there's no way anyone will be fooled into believing Sony's shipment numbers this quarter, with Kinect and the 360's incredible performance.

what would happen if Sony shipped more than MS this quater?


Nothing would happen, we'd just know that something fishy was going on with Sony's shipment numbers. In that case, we might as well stop comparing Sony's numbers to the other consoles' numbers, because it would be clear that they are not calculating their numbers in the same way as Nintendo or Microsoft. Obviously, there's no way that the PS3 has outsold the 360 in this quarter, so if the numbers come out again and Sony says they've shipped more than the 360, then we can all have a good laugh.

Something fishy with Sony's numbers? More like something fishy with our numbers. Just because Sony ships more doesn't mean Sony is somehow cheating or doing it differently. obvious fanboy logic is obvious.



rrrnearrr on 29 December 2010
Pirateogta said:
psrock said:
Pirateogta said:

I will never trust Sony's shipment numbers since they released their numbers for the April-June 2010 quarter. Every sales tracker (NPD, Media Create, VGChartz, GFK, Chart-Track) showed that the PS3 had sold less units in that quarter compared to the last quarter (Jan-Mar). Then Sony's numbers came out and they had shipped more units than the previous quarter. How is that possible. They sold considerably less than the last quarter, but shipped more units...

It's clear that Sony tracks PS3s shipped differently than Microsoft tracks the 360, or they are just overshipping every quarter. It's getting pretty ridiculous. That will be the final nail in the coffin if they actually report they shipped more than the 360 in the Oct-Dec quarter, when the 360 is outselling the PS3 by almost a million in one month alone in just one region, according to NPD. The December NPD could possibly have the 360 ahead of the PS3 by 2 million if this trend keeps up, and there's no way anyone will be fooled into believing Sony's shipment numbers this quarter, with Kinect and the 360's incredible performance.

what would happen if Sony shipped more than MS this quater?


Nothing would happen, we'd just know that something fishy was going on with Sony's shipment numbers. In that case, we might as well stop comparing Sony's numbers to the other consoles' numbers, because it would be clear that they are not calculating their numbers in the same way as Nintendo or Microsoft. Obviously, there's no way that the PS3 has outsold the 360 in this quarter, so if the numbers come out again and Sony says they've shipped more than the 360, then we can all have a good laugh.

More like something wrong with VGChartz numbers, Sony has laws to obey and stakeholders to please, VGchartz, well, its vgchartz.



daroamer on 30 December 2010
rrrnearrr said:
Pirateogta said:
psrock said:
Pirateogta said:

I will never trust Sony's shipment numbers since they released their numbers for the April-June 2010 quarter. Every sales tracker (NPD, Media Create, VGChartz, GFK, Chart-Track) showed that the PS3 had sold less units in that quarter compared to the last quarter (Jan-Mar). Then Sony's numbers came out and they had shipped more units than the previous quarter. How is that possible. They sold considerably less than the last quarter, but shipped more units...

It's clear that Sony tracks PS3s shipped differently than Microsoft tracks the 360, or they are just overshipping every quarter. It's getting pretty ridiculous. That will be the final nail in the coffin if they actually report they shipped more than the 360 in the Oct-Dec quarter, when the 360 is outselling the PS3 by almost a million in one month alone in just one region, according to NPD. The December NPD could possibly have the 360 ahead of the PS3 by 2 million if this trend keeps up, and there's no way anyone will be fooled into believing Sony's shipment numbers this quarter, with Kinect and the 360's incredible performance.

what would happen if Sony shipped more than MS this quater?


Nothing would happen, we'd just know that something fishy was going on with Sony's shipment numbers. In that case, we might as well stop comparing Sony's numbers to the other consoles' numbers, because it would be clear that they are not calculating their numbers in the same way as Nintendo or Microsoft. Obviously, there's no way that the PS3 has outsold the 360 in this quarter, so if the numbers come out again and Sony says they've shipped more than the 360, then we can all have a good laugh.

More like something wrong with VGChartz numbers, Sony has laws to obey and stakeholders to please, VGchartz, well, its vgchartz.

You missed the part where he also mentioned every other 3rd party tracking company showing them selling less.  It's not like VGC is showing Xbox outselling PS3 by a million in the US and every else saying it was the opposite.

Isn't Sony also the company that used to count shipping to their warehouse as "shipped"?



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NotStan on 30 December 2010
daroamer said:

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You missed the part where he also mentioned every other 3rd party tracking company showing them selling less.  It's not like VGC is showing Xbox outselling PS3 by a million in the US and every else saying it was the opposite.

Isn't Sony also the company that used to count shipping to their warehouse as "shipped"?


Ah but remember, Sony can't lie to their shareholders!



Disconnect and self destruct, one bullet a time.

slowmo on 30 December 2010
daroamer said:
rrrnearrr said:
Pirateogta said:
psrock said:
Pirateogta said:

I will never trust Sony's shipment numbers since they released their numbers for the April-June 2010 quarter. Every sales tracker (NPD, Media Create, VGChartz, GFK, Chart-Track) showed that the PS3 had sold less units in that quarter compared to the last quarter (Jan-Mar). Then Sony's numbers came out and they had shipped more units than the previous quarter. How is that possible. They sold considerably less than the last quarter, but shipped more units...

It's clear that Sony tracks PS3s shipped differently than Microsoft tracks the 360, or they are just overshipping every quarter. It's getting pretty ridiculous. That will be the final nail in the coffin if they actually report they shipped more than the 360 in the Oct-Dec quarter, when the 360 is outselling the PS3 by almost a million in one month alone in just one region, according to NPD. The December NPD could possibly have the 360 ahead of the PS3 by 2 million if this trend keeps up, and there's no way anyone will be fooled into believing Sony's shipment numbers this quarter, with Kinect and the 360's incredible performance.

what would happen if Sony shipped more than MS this quater?


Nothing would happen, we'd just know that something fishy was going on with Sony's shipment numbers. In that case, we might as well stop comparing Sony's numbers to the other consoles' numbers, because it would be clear that they are not calculating their numbers in the same way as Nintendo or Microsoft. Obviously, there's no way that the PS3 has outsold the 360 in this quarter, so if the numbers come out again and Sony says they've shipped more than the 360, then we can all have a good laugh.

More like something wrong with VGChartz numbers, Sony has laws to obey and stakeholders to please, VGchartz, well, its vgchartz.

You missed the part where he also mentioned every other 3rd party tracking company showing them selling less.  It's not like VGC is showing Xbox outselling PS3 by a million in the US and every else saying it was the opposite.

Isn't Sony also the company that used to count shipping to their warehouse as "shipped"?


Wasn't this the same company that got their predicted profit wrong by about -6 billion a few years ago too.  This is VGChartz though the magical world where Sony never make mistakes.



nikosx on 30 December 2010
Pirateogta said:
psrock said:
Pirateogta said:

I will never trust Sony's shipment numbers since they released their numbers for the April-June 2010 quarter. Every sales tracker (NPD, Media Create, VGChartz, GFK, Chart-Track) showed that the PS3 had sold less units in that quarter compared to the last quarter (Jan-Mar). Then Sony's numbers came out and they had shipped more units than the previous quarter. How is that possible. They sold considerably less than the last quarter, but shipped more units...

It's clear that Sony tracks PS3s shipped differently than Microsoft tracks the 360, or they are just overshipping every quarter. It's getting pretty ridiculous. That will be the final nail in the coffin if they actually report they shipped more than the 360 in the Oct-Dec quarter, when the 360 is outselling the PS3 by almost a million in one month alone in just one region, according to NPD. The December NPD could possibly have the 360 ahead of the PS3 by 2 million if this trend keeps up, and there's no way anyone will be fooled into believing Sony's shipment numbers this quarter, with Kinect and the 360's incredible performance.

what would happen if Sony shipped more than MS this quater?


Nothing would happen, we'd just know that something fishy was going on with Sony's shipment numbers. In that case, we might as well stop comparing Sony's numbers to the other consoles' numbers, because it would be clear that they are not calculating their numbers in the same way as Nintendo or Microsoft. Obviously, there's no way that the PS3 has outsold the 360 in this quarter, so if the numbers come out again and Sony says they've shipped more than the 360, then we can all have a good laugh.

 

GChartz Hardware data for the period 05th Sep 2010 to 18th Dec 2010:

Console PS3 X360
Total
5,756,198
6,211,078

Xbox360 was probably supply constrained in US this quarter due to Kinect sales boost, so PS3 can outship the Xbox360 WW even if Xbox360 sold more to customers.



kurasakiichimaru on 30 December 2010
wholikeswood said:

Bracing for adjustments.

Imagine the meltdown...lol

 



ethomaz on 30 December 2010

A lot of fanboy meltdown here.

The difference between PS3 and 360 tracked by VGC was so low that would be ok if PS3 shipped is higher than the 360 this quarter.