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@lordtheknight  there not going bankrupt, my point is why do people keep complaning about it??? seriously, what is the point?? these complaints fall on deaf ears.

@jarrod  im not picking on Smash Bros. (i have the game) but Mvs.C2 is also played at tournaments but that game is seriously unbalanced so I never take it seriously thats just me.  I had the cube version of SC2 and Link was the man. I would welcome a SC4 deal with Link for GC but since that didnt happen I'll just have to settle for Vader/Starkiller/Kratos.  I dont know about you but i love the fighting genre way to much to stare at my Wii and pray that it gets support. Screw that noise im going to support the console that has the crap i want. whenever they do support the Wii with a (exclusive, good) fighter i'll be there



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 Now I'm actually looking forward to Activision suing EA for 400m. 



Things that need to die in 2016: Defeatist attitudes of Nintendo fans

"@lordtheknight  there not going bankrupt, my point is why do people keep complaning about it??? seriously, what is the point?? these complaints fall on deaf ears."

I wrote in the future tense. The direction they are going on will just suck up capital.

And just because they at EA won't listen, we're supposed to just shut up? It's not as though these complaints are petty. They are treating a huge chuck of their customers like dirt.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

@lordtheknight  i hear you man, i really do. but money talks the only thing I could suggest is that if it really bothers you to not support EA in any kind of capacity, and get your like minded people to do same. (im not joining, ME and NFS are to good to pass up). EA dont really care about Wii, thats just the way it is unfortunately



oniyide said:

@lordtheknight  i hear you man, i really do. but money talks the only thing I could suggest is that if it really bothers you to not support EA in any kind of capacity, and get your like minded people to do same. (im not joining, ME and NFS are to good to pass up). EA dont really care about Wii, thats just the way it is unfortunately

I'm not denying, or not realizing, that's the way it is. If it wasn't we wouldn't have reason to complain. Duh.

And if money talked, they would know to drop a lot of what they were doing anyway.

The problem is money SHOULD have been talking when RE4 Wii Edition sold a million copies. Money SHOULD be talking when Goldeneye is the fastest selling Wii FPS yet. Money SHOULD have been talking when Monster Hunter Tri sold as well as the first MH game on the PSP.

And before you go "they didn't sell that much", neither did the remake of Final Fantasy III on the DS, but that was good enough for a lot of developers.

Money isn't good enough for these people when it comes to the Wii, since they are either too stuck in their pride, too set in their ways, and/or falling for the sunken cost fallacy. They deserve all the money they are losing (not that it's good for the people invloved, but companies are only as good as they treat their customers).

That doesn't mean we are going to keep silent.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

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oniyide said:

@jarrod  im not picking on Smash Bros. (i have the game) but Mvs.C2 is also played at tournaments but that game is seriously unbalanced so I never take it seriously thats just me.  I had the cube version of SC2 and Link was the man. I would welcome a SC4 deal with Link for GC but since that didnt happen I'll just have to settle for Vader/Starkiller/Kratos.  I dont know about you but i love the fighting genre way to much to stare at my Wii and pray that it gets support. Screw that noise im going to support the console that has the crap i want. whenever they do support the Wii with a (exclusive, good) fighter i'll be there

I'd say MVC2 is serious as well, it also has a long lived tourney scene (though it's not near as active as Smash Melee/Brawl).  Any fighter that can support sustained tournament play is "serious" wether it's Smash Bros, Vs Capcom, Tekken, Virtual On or whatever.   Saying The VS games aren't "serious" fighters because they might not be as complex, balanced or technical as the average Street Fighter is like saying Tekken isn't a "serious" fighter because it's not as complex, balanced or technical as the average Virtua Fighter.  It just doesn't work... is Ridge Racer not a "serious" racer?  Is LBP not a "serious" platformer?  Is COD not a "serious" shooter?  Not having the highest barrier to entry in your genre doesn't make you "not serious".

As for SC on Wii, I'd say Namco screwed the pooch, but yeah it's too late now.  What would've worked is if SCBD had been PSP/Wii multi, with 1st party exclusives for each.  Namco should've really done a Wii port of Tekken 6 too, considering they already had SD assets in place for it.  Money left on the table imo, though Namco's Wii support has been pretty generally terrible.



jarrod said:
oniyide said:

@jarrod  im not picking on Smash Bros. (i have the game) but Mvs.C2 is also played at tournaments but that game is seriously unbalanced so I never take it seriously thats just me.  I had the cube version of SC2 and Link was the man. I would welcome a SC4 deal with Link for GC but since that didnt happen I'll just have to settle for Vader/Starkiller/Kratos.  I dont know about you but i love the fighting genre way to much to stare at my Wii and pray that it gets support. Screw that noise im going to support the console that has the crap i want. whenever they do support the Wii with a (exclusive, good) fighter i'll be there

I'd say MVC2 is serious as well, it also has a long lived tourney scene (though it's not near as active as Smash Melee/Brawl).  Any fighter that can support sustained tournament play is "serious" wether it's Smash Bros, Vs Capcom, Tekken, Virtual On or whatever.   Saying The VS games aren't "serious" fighters because they might not be as complex, balanced or technical as the average Street Fighter is like saying Tekken isn't a "serious" fighter because it's not as complex, balanced or technical as the average Virtua Fighter.  It just doesn't work... is Ridge Racer not a "serious" racer?  Is LBP not a "serious" platformer?  Is COD not a "serious" shooter?  Not having the highest barrier to entry in your genre doesn't make you "not serious".

As for SC on Wii, I'd say Namco screwed the pooch, but yeah it's too late now.  What would've worked is if SCBD had been PSP/Wii multi, with 1st party exclusives for each.  Namco should've really done a Wii port of Tekken 6 too, considering they already had SD assets in place for it.  Money left on the table imo, though Namco's Wii support has been pretty generally terrible.


Namcos games with the exception of UNS2 and Splatterhouse as of late has been pretty bad across the board sadly.  They're hemorrhaging  money, their games are typically average at best (for this gen, last gen they'd critically be called sub par), they don't bring over the RPGs people want, and they lack promotion.  Namco seems to be in a similar boat to THQ, with the exception THQ saw pretty big losses and decided to it might be a good idea to do something different than sub par games all around and make uDraw, so far it's sold decently well, hopefully they start to pull themselves out of their hole.

Anyway yeah Namco just either needs to step up the quality of their games or change their strategy and offer something unique no one else does (I would mention it has to be quality but I've seen unique products that are rough around the edges sell well enough to make the successors of much higher quality, Guitar Hero comes to mind)



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@jarrod you can play any game that has multi in a tourney setting. All im saying is that MVC2 for me at least is way to unbalanced for me to take seriously. Its about balance, not the technical aspects. I understand that your going to have your characters that might be a little more powerful than another. but when you have a damn roster of 52 characters and people use about 15 of them because the other ones are useless no matter how good you are, IMHO thats kinda a problem. im talking servebot, Roll, Sakura, etc.



KIller Instinct Gold was my favourite fighter.

In the end I could kill someone in 3 seconds. thats how many hours I invested into that game.



 

 

The fact is that it is probably not just EA alone but the developers.

 

Most developers want to use the high end software, but dev tools for the Wii seem to be from previous generation. Add the frustration with the tech to the fact, that most publishers have no idea (outside all things Mario and lately fitness) what will sell on the system, causes the hesitation to fully support the Wii.

But as others have said, the lack of support, isn't all on the publishers or developers. This is the third straight console generation that Nintendo's choices with hardware have alienated them with developers and publishers (N64-cartridges; GC- 1.5 GB mind-discs instead of full DVDs; Wii- a weak powered system and motion controls).