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snfr said:
d21lewis said:
snfr said:
d21lewis said:
snfr said:
d21lewis said:

I gotta admit, I do laugh whenever that guy he killed in God of War 1 pops up.  That guy just can't catch a break! "What?  You again!? Anybody but you!!" Then Kratos does something to ruin his day.  Classic.

How far have you come in GoW3 already? I need to know it ;)


Took down Poseidon this morning so, not very far at all.  This is the kind of game I have to play at night!  (don't know why it isn't in the card in my sig).  I'm gonna jump on it right now, as a matter of fact.

Ah, ok. Then you will find a little surprise in GoWIII which I found to be quite hilarious (perhaps it was just me, but dunno). Probably during your next 1-2 hours in the game.

Was that him trapped in the brambles?  It sounded like him but I wasn't sure.  If it was:

JEEZUS, KRATOS!! What the fuck is wrong with you!?  That was horrible!!  Still cool, though.

He is not directly in GoW3. But you can find a letter of him on the ground. I just thought it was funny that they decided to mention this guy again in GoW3.

Looking forward to finding it (if I didn't miss it already)!  I thought he was the guy that Kratos burned alive while he was dead.  My jaw dropped when Kratos did that (even though I helped a little).



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d21lewis said:
snfr said:
d21lewis said:

Was that him trapped in the brambles?  It sounded like him but I wasn't sure.  If it was:

JEEZUS, KRATOS!! What the fuck is wrong with you!?  That was horrible!!  Still cool, though.

He is not directly in GoW3. But you can find a letter of him on the ground. I just thought it was funny that they decided to mention this guy again in GoW3.

Looking forward to finding it (if I didn't miss it already)!  I thought he was the guy that Kratos burned alive while he was dead.  My jaw dropped when Kratos did that (even though I helped a little).

There are actually some parts where my jaw dropped, the first one was the 1st person kill/death of Poseidon. Sometimes I even began smiling at those scenes and I couldn't stop (I guess there is something wrong with me )



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GodOfWar_3ever said:
Ajescent said:

He's too powerful for my taste, I hate overpowered heroes.

Why the hell are you hyped for a superhero game (inFAMOUS 2) then ?

Because I liked InFamous 1...? I was never a fan of Cole, just a fan of the game.



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Ajescent said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:
Ajescent said:

He's too powerful for my taste, I hate overpowered heroes.

Why the hell are you hyped for a superhero game (inFAMOUS 2) then ?

Because I liked InFamous 1...? I was never a fan of Cole, just a fan of the game.

The whole point of inFAMOUS is the sense of power imo, I'm looking forward to 2 as well

I think they are discussing Kratos as a character, not about his "skills". ;-P



GodOfWar_3ever said:
Ajescent said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:
Ajescent said:

He's too powerful for my taste, I hate overpowered heroes.

Why the hell are you hyped for a superhero game (inFAMOUS 2) then ?

Because I liked InFamous 1...? I was never a fan of Cole, just a fan of the game.

The whole point of inFAMOUS is the sense of power imo, I'm looking forward to 2 as well

I think they are discussing Kratos as a character, not about his "skills". ;-P

I would argue is immense power is part of his character. Though with that said, Cole is less of an Arse than Kratos. He is just unnecessarily over the top sometimes.

e.g in GoW 1- Oh look, a spoiler alert...

The guy he meets inside the Hydra's head, was there really any need to kill him? It's things like that that makes me hate him, unlike (Evil) Cole who can be an arse but once in a while does something that grounds him, showing a Human side to him...if anything, I like Master Chief more than Kratos eventhough he is a faceless worker drone who is also too powerful for my own taste.



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GodOfWar_3ever said:
TRios_Zen said:

As I've stated in another thread, Kratos' character is a prebuscent wet dream: people hurt me, me kill people and women want to screw me.  Yet, to those who haven't finished GOWIII I wont spoil it, but damn the ending cut scene was worse than any character flaw Kratos had (in my opinion). NOTE, not the ending battle, the ending of the story.

ALL that being said, I thought all three home console games were really enjoyable and would definitely recommend them to any PS3 owner.  Hell just the scale of GOWIII is incredible.  His character is what keeps the series as 'really good' to me, versus 'truly epic' though, I just can't relate.

About the ending, it'd make a lot more sense if you have basic knowledge on Greek mythology.

I understand that you dig this game, and I respect your opinion on that.  I apologize if my opinion on Kratos and the end of 3 upset you, but don't insult my intelligence, please.  I have more than a basic knowledge of Greek mythology and **spoiler alert**:

while "hope" being trapped in Pandora's box IS consistent with Greek Mythology, the release of hope, and emodiment of said power into a person full of selfish rage and blind hate thus giving them the strength to murder civilains and gods alike without remorse, is not only contrary to mythology, but completely ridiculous in it's own right.

We can agree to disagree on the character/story and agree that the game was a ton of fun, and a must have on the PS3, right?



TRios_Zen said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:
TRios_Zen said:

As I've stated in another thread, Kratos' character is a prebuscent wet dream: people hurt me, me kill people and women want to screw me.  Yet, to those who haven't finished GOWIII I wont spoil it, but damn the ending cut scene was worse than any character flaw Kratos had (in my opinion). NOTE, not the ending battle, the ending of the story.

ALL that being said, I thought all three home console games were really enjoyable and would definitely recommend them to any PS3 owner.  Hell just the scale of GOWIII is incredible.  His character is what keeps the series as 'really good' to me, versus 'truly epic' though, I just can't relate.

About the ending, it'd make a lot more sense if you have basic knowledge on Greek mythology.

I understand that you dig this game, and I respect your opinion on that.  I apologize if my opinion on Kratos and the end of 3 upset you, but don't insult my intelligence, please.  I have more than a basic knowledge of Greek mythology and **spoiler alert**:

while "hope" being trapped in Pandora's box IS consistent with Greek Mythology, the release of hope, and emodiment of said power into a person full of selfish rage and blind hate thus giving them the strength to murder civilains and gods alike without remorse, is not only contrary to mythology, but completely ridiculous in it's own right.

We can agree to disagree on the character/story and agree that the game was a ton of fun, and a must have on the PS3, right?

**Obvious Spoilers Below**

I think he was referring to Greek mythology in a more general sense. The main example is the relationship between the humans and gods. First, while the gods are immortal(GOW obviously alters this) and have super-human powers, they possess human temperaments. The gods desire revenge, deceive humans, etc. They are far from the modern interpretations of god and have faulty characters traits. Because the gods interact with the human world, they take some level of control away from humans, and they use this control for questionable purposes (I'm talking about the gods using humans as a means to reach the god's goals). Kratos's actions at the end of GOWIII takes the power of the gods away, hence, giving humans more control over the world.

Furthermore, the world depends on the gods. This is seen when Kratos kills Poseidon and the sea rises. When Kratos takes away the gods's power, he also removes the dependence of the world on the existence of the gods and places more control in human hands.

I think your second section is also a little misleading. While hope emobodies Kratos, as in it is inside him, I would not say Kratos embodies hope. He suppresses hope until the end of GOWIII, and it is not active until that point. This is the main point of his relationship with Pandora. Also, Kratos had the power to kill humans without remorse prior to opening Pandora's box. This is more of a consequence of his personality rather than Pandora's Box. In addition, saying something is contrary to mythology is not really a legitimate criticism because GOW takes a good bit of liberty with Greek mythology. As I said earlier,  examples are the immortality of the Gods and Kratos's actions-these completely conflict with Greek mythology.



GameOver22 said:
TRios_Zen said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:
TRios_Zen said:

As I've stated in another thread, Kratos' character is a prebuscent wet dream: people hurt me, me kill people and women want to screw me.  Yet, to those who haven't finished GOWIII I wont spoil it, but damn the ending cut scene was worse than any character flaw Kratos had (in my opinion). NOTE, not the ending battle, the ending of the story.

ALL that being said, I thought all three home console games were really enjoyable and would definitely recommend them to any PS3 owner.  Hell just the scale of GOWIII is incredible.  His character is what keeps the series as 'really good' to me, versus 'truly epic' though, I just can't relate.

About the ending, it'd make a lot more sense if you have basic knowledge on Greek mythology.

I understand that you dig this game, and I respect your opinion on that.  I apologize if my opinion on Kratos and the end of 3 upset you, but don't insult my intelligence, please.  I have more than a basic knowledge of Greek mythology and **spoiler alert**:

while "hope" being trapped in Pandora's box IS consistent with Greek Mythology, the release of hope, and emodiment of said power into a person full of selfish rage and blind hate thus giving them the strength to murder civilains and gods alike without remorse, is not only contrary to mythology, but completely ridiculous in it's own right.

We can agree to disagree on the character/story and agree that the game was a ton of fun, and a must have on the PS3, right?

**Obvious Spoilers Below**

I think he was referring to Greek mythology in a more general sense. The main example is the relationship between the humans and gods. First, while the gods are immortal(GOW obviously alters this) and have super-human powers, they possess human temperaments. The gods desire revenge, deceive humans, etc. They are far from the modern interpretations of god and have faulty characters traits. Because the gods interact with the human world, they take some level of control away from humans, and they use this control for questionable purposes (I'm talking about the gods using humans as a means to reach the god's goals). Kratos's actions at the end of GOWIII takes the power of the gods away, hence, giving humans more control over the world.

Furthermore, the world depends on the gods. This is seen when Kratos kills Poseidon and the sea rises. When Kratos takes away the gods's power, he also removes the dependence of the world on the existence of the gods and places more control in human hands.

I think your second section is also a little misleading. While hope emobodies Kratos, as in it is inside him, I would not say Kratos embodies hope. He suppresses hope until the end of GOWIII, and it is not active until that point. This is the main point of his relationship with Pandora. Also, Kratos had the power to kill humans without remorse prior to opening Pandora's box. This is more of a consequence of his personality rather than Pandora's Box. In addition, saying something is contrary to mythology is not really a legitimate criticism because GOW takes a good bit of liberty with Greek mythology. As I said earlier,  examples are the immortality of the Gods and Kratos's actions-these completely conflict with Greek mythology.

Spoilers*

Yeah, he refused to give the power to Athena cause he wanted mankind to be independent, and free from the deceit of gods (unlike him). His relationship with Pandora made him see things in a different light. So in the end, he had fulfilled what he thought to be his purpose, and had destroyed the world in the process, so he "released" it to the world. So in the end, Kratos did mankind a huge favour...lol

And triois, I apologize for being too worked up about this. Sorry. I let my love for the game get to me.



KRATOS = BADASS!!



d21lewis said:

Looking forward to finding it (if I didn't miss it already)!  I thought he was the guy that Kratos burned alive while he was dead.  My jaw dropped when Kratos did that (even though I helped a little).


pff, your jaw dropped when he burnt a dude?? you may as well drop your balls later in the game when he XXXX a half naked chick to a XXXX and XXXX her as a XXXX.