That doesn't mean much though because the doctor could be successful or the town could vote no lynch and either of those could lead to more days.  Plus the scum would only need to get the population down to 10 if there were 5 and they could do that in 5 and a half days.

Usually scum?

I think you are mistaken, I have played in 4 games and the last game is the only time I have ever been scum.

Anyways the whole number of mafia issue, it does seem likely that there is 5.

so youre suspicious of people who are suspicious of the person who was suspicious of you?

That's what I want to know, too.

What happened to joking in day ones? I miss them. In the last couple days it just seems they disappeared. 

I think everyone has gotten paranoid. 

Also, 

Mafia # discussion dragged out. it's generally an accepted rule, questioning it makes no sense. It's ironic, that people say bringing it up is useless, but the argument they're making is a useless argument too. There's no point! 

People's actions compared to their usual ones: 

GoW - list posts with summary of players on them
SAK - coming late and summarizing, me too! 
j0 - while simultaneously doing the above, being awesome
prof - crazy mofo
zex - he actually hasn't played in a while. I forgot his usual attitude. I hope this is his first game as mafia, though. 
gnizmo - is it me or does gnizmo have a "no-bullshit" attitude"
Linkz - I haven't played enough of the last 3 games to get his general attitude, he has the same tone, though. 
Wonk - I don't know. 
hatmoza - Lately, he has had a trend of predicting mafia thoughts on day one. "If they did this, it must mean they're mafia!"
 MG - His posts are got to be the shortest ever. GAWD
Scottie - Is thi shis first game? 
Vetteman - on the opposite pole of the general consensus, as usual.
Silver-Tiger - is trying to make an effort to participate. Which is interesting, the last time I played when he was scum he merely summarized and lurked. 
nen-suer - You know, although he has the same general tone, his useless questioning of the 5 rule seems weird to me. 

(FF, Radish, Heph, IMU, Soleron and Scottie haven't posted enough in my recent memory)

Note: Tells don't usually give away scumness, people learn to act the same when they have either role. I just thought this was an interesting thing to bring up. 

You should have said

Wonktonodi- I do not know!!!

@Wonk

It really has nothing to do with me personally, just the fact that he got jumped on for saying, "who cares if there's 5 or 7 mafia ..."

I think people misunderstood him or are intentionally putting him on the spot. I think he was trying to argue that (poorly worded) it doesn't matter. my and Zexen's argument is pointless. 

This is something scum will try to put out of context. I'm just keeping my mind open, and not jumping on the obvious.

Let me remind everyone that this in no way me defending nen, and that I could always be wrong.

Our last game was a Vanilla game as well,  it had a Vigilante.  Although we didnt have a doctor

And yes we do have different definitions of Vanilla,  to me a Vigilante and SK is a common role seen in Mafia, and I would refer to them as vanilla roles. But if you want to get completely technical,  vanilla as an adjective would mean Mafia at its simplist form, only Town and Mafia.  And I dont think anyone would go for that.

The number of mafia hasnt been stated as a fact yet,  unless you are confessing?   There are only 2 types of people who know this,  the mod and the mafia.  And you cant be one of them

Just to elaborate on Vette's post to Zexen.

SK IS a standard Vanilla role. It's on the very first page of the mafia wiki.

Zexen, you are being pretty extreme with every topic, example you touch ...