souts honor? please you're both also people on my suspcions list.

Fuck, nen's tone just makes me think he's an over-defensive angry townie. 

 Although he never properly rebutted any of my accusations, I'll just drop that argument as it's leading no where. 

I will leave it at a proper FoS, though. 

@ hatmoza, 

... that argument doesn't work. Scum use it against townies as well. As a matter of fact, I used it against scifiboy once when I was scum, and he said something along the lines off "oh noez, the doctor died"

@ wonk, why is it that anyone who is suspicious of you is automatically in your suspicion list? 

links isn't on my list.  It's how they go about doing it.  When people say things only like they get "bad vibes" or "I'm suspicios of wonk" with only weak arguments or without actually discussing any of the points that I bring up, they are on the list. 

Any more examples that lead to your "You seem to make "genuine" mistakes or  misunderstandings/communications way too often..." ? To me the quoted post was a miscommunication by SAK. It made no sense as it was written. That Wonk didn't make the guess that I did as to what SAK actually meant may be troubling, but I wouldn't put him at fault.

Wonk's post to open the day also bothered me. Mostly because "Trucks cleary thinks I'm scum since I was the first he voted for.  If I were scum I wouldn't go for him since it points way to much at me.  Being not scum, I do see it as a good move by them since they know I'm town and that there are more than enough people to vote for me today." is purely WIFOM. Slightly because Wonk was a part of that scumteam last round where nord gave instructions to not speak about the dead body. What better way to lead people to believe that isn't the case this time around?

HoS Wonk. With Stefl lynched, he moves up to second on my list. J0 remains the player I'm most likely going to vote for today though.

As for not buddying up with FF, I also said I'm suspicious of j0 and Wonk. Why weren't you preemptively defensive about buddying up with me as well?

Lastly, you pegged me for my "quilty" post. The typos were intentional because it wasn't something that's actually happened. I was hopeful zexen would've gotten overly defensive, but realized it was quite a reach.

There's a lot from the end of yesterday and more from today that I want to get to, but I don't have the time right now.

Better to ask than to assume or guess.  Since he said one thing yet reason would lead us to think another.  When he gave his reasons that also supported there being no doctor yet still used wording that said there wasn't one.  However we now had his reasons from this you told me he think we have no doctor and he didn't correct you so I let it go.  Hat thinks this is bigger than it is.  I probably could have just said to SAK "you think there is a doctor when the evidence shows otherwise?"

Is that really all you have to say?  I mean I wasn't expecting you to necessarily come in and write a book but unless I missed something this one post is pretty much your entire commentary on at least two weeks of play.  We may have been slow but not THAT slow. 

I mean hell, you don't even back up the SAK vote with anything that even happened in that time, you just say "oh hey, SAK isn't dead even though he was so suspicious back then?  Might as well stick with that vote lolz"

FoS zexen.

I didn't like this at all. I just asked radish not to vote, basically to slow things down. radish being a confirmed mason didn't really affect how quickly everyone got onto Stefl at all. Nor should that fact have caused you to decide to switch off of SAK and onto the wagon.

your vote on j0:
First, I question how you arrived at the phrase "kick me under a buss." Both times I've explained the phrase this round it has been about a mafiosi setting up a scumbuddy to get lynched. If you're using the phrase as it usually implies in the real world, well then j0 would be trying to make a scapegoat out of you for his own mistake. Something which hasn't happened.

Second, you rushed your vote in because you didn't want to be the last poster of the day and get killed because of it? Well the last vote has never been the last post of the day, because we've always had some "twilight" time. Now that's not guaranteed to always be the case, but if you were so worried about having the final post and dying then you could've just not posted. I'm thinking you're scum that didn't want to be questioned for not being on the lynch, and you're using this self-preservation claim(which is extremely weak btw) as a defense.

J0 is right about "i thought you guys learned i'm not to easy to get rid off during the day. If you want me you better use on of your precious night kills" being scummy. Just about everyone has stated suspicions of you throughout the round, so I imagine it would actually be quite simple for you to get lynched. To me this just seems like you're telling town "don't waste a lynch on me, scum are going to have to night kill me," meanwhile when you don't turn up dead each night you can continue to pretend to mock scum.

And as for "what made you look bad is that you posted that late and after stefl was about to get lynched
to me it was like desperate attempt to have the lynch train stop.
You could have waited and expressed your feelings tomorow if it wasnt your intent.
i mean what does it mean to FoS someone when someone else is about to get lynched ?"
I didn't like the things j0 said at the end of the day at all, and I'll get to that in my next post. However, tomorrow isn't a sure thing for any townie, so it can be important to lay things out before the night.

At the time I posted that, you were both online so I wondered why neither of you keyed in. Your previous post was an unvote of Truck but said nothing else, and then it was two days before that when discussing prof's list that I'd say was the last real contribution. I know real life>online, but the pace now is such that it doesn't take too long to pop in more often and say something useful.

Now the real meat of it:
You said you didn't see a need to defend yourself because the bandwagon switched to stefl. Well that'd still put you in the hot seat today, so might as well get it over with since you had time. You also said you weren't in much pressure at all in the first place. Jeez, that's a lot of words to say "I don't feel threatened." Anyway, I'd say it was quite wrong considering 3 players makes up quite the push for a lynch. Now you can certainly say you don't have much to defend against,(though rest assured I will post plenty for you as I did for Stefl) but if you feel that's the case you should've been very suspicious about FF, nen, and myself. It'd odd that you only chose nen of us three.

Then you state you're going to hold off on the vote because you "have a feeling some stuff is still going to be said." Yet you turn around and vote Stefl immediately after the farewell post. Yes, it was obvious at that point that Stefl was mafia, but you just shut down just about any possible conversation from others.

Soon after the vote, there's this as a preemptive defense once Stefl flips. The problem I have is you first make it a statement that Stefl was mafia,(this I didn't question as stated above, it was obvious by that point) but then turn it into an "if" when questioned on it. The issue is you say Stefl and yourself weren't connected, which I read as you're not on the same team(as scum) since that was the only connection I kept mentioning. Which given the "if" means you thought there was still a possibility Stefl was town, meaning if you'd be scum if that was the flip.

That's all for now. Like I said, I'll dedicate a major post to everything I've noticed since the OP, but there are others I have to get to plus a Stefl recap. Sleep first.

Are you kidding me? Did you even read why I have been absent these two weeks? Prolly not given that you posted during those two weeks many times why I wasn't here and why I wasn't posting, even when I had clearly stated in my post that I was coming back on the 15th. I don't know why now you come and be oh so suprised that I come back now, what do you expect me to do, post a ten page essay?

I've wanted to lynch SAK before going on holiday, when y'all for some reason I cannot explain lynched Scottie instead of him when Scottie had barely done anything scummy and SAK was an excellent candidate for mafia. Now that y'all got that wrong, I think it's a good time to correct that mistake and lynch who should've been lynched that day.

1) It's true. You never really laid out the accusations you hinted at a long time ago. Anyhow, It's simple I chose nen, he was the most suspicious of me, he was the most fop-floppy with his thoughts. 

And I didn't feel threatened because it was only you pushing for a lynch, FF and nen were more j ust a greeing with it, although FF actually voted. 

2) Eh, that's my fault. I just saw stefl's comment and voted. 

3) What, you wouldn't agree with what I said? You did say that in previous posts, that you thought we were connected as mafia. 

Anyhow, you're getting carried away with the last bolded lines. I actually should've used "when" instead of if, because I didn't mean to imply that stefls was town. But still, that never means if he did turn out to be town that I would be mafia. As a townie, how the hell should I know if he was in my team? We don't. I already made it clear on the above lines and previous posts that I thought he was mafia, and therefore, I'm not in the same team he was.