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SecondWar on 15 December 2010
S.T.A.G.E. said:

You're going to be waiting a while for a new top notch IP from Microsoft.

Really? I thought the next one would be Codename:Kingdoms



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Salnax on 15 December 2010

Microsoft doesn't DO great first party games. They have them, but unlike Sony and Nintendo, that is not their focus. Microsoft's strength is providing similar HD games as Sony, often by stealing exclusiveness, and oneupping them with a lower price and/or better online/post-launch support.



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huaxiong90 on 15 December 2010
daroamer said:
cmeese47 said:
Jadedx said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

You're going to be waiting a while for a new top notch IP from Microsoft.



kingdoms


That isnt from Microsoft.

I'm pretty sure it is, it's just being developed by Crytek.  I don't think it's a situation where Crytek decided to do a 360 exclusive on their own, I'm sure MS came to them and asked them to develop a game with them.

"Microsoft Game Studios has announced a new Xbox 360-exclusive project, developed in collaboration with Germany's Crytek."

Similar to Lost Odyssey or Infinite Undiscovery.  Microsoft owns both of those.  I can't find the IP ownership of Kingdoms but it's likely because that name isn't official or final.

http://www.microsoft.com/about/legal/en/us/IntellectualProperty/Trademarks/EN-US.aspx

Once it gets an official name, it should show up here if it's truly a Microsoft IP.



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Chibi.V.29 on 15 December 2010
yo_john117 said:
Baalzamon said:
yo_john117 said:

Ha I just took one look at the box art for Brute Force and now I hate it.....something about it looks horrible but I can't quite put my finger on it.


I think its that it looks just terrible in general...perhaps the retarded creature on the front?

Yeah I think it was the dinosaur thing.

haha ^^



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heruamon on 15 December 2010
Reasonable said:

As someone who's just purchased a 360 I certainly hope to see more new IP.  My only real concern with the console, which held me back from getting one for a while, was the relative paucity of what I think of as true exclusives - Halo, Gears, etc. - vs what I thought of (still do TBH) as 'maybe' exclusives, like Bioshock, Mass Effect, GTA Episodes, etc.

I mean, the overall library is strong, and there are a lot of good exclusives, but still, I would like to see a couple more IPs being tried by MS.

Which is what I really can't understand, since they HAVE the IPs.  They also HAVE alot of developers who can work on them, in a second party arrangement as well, but once again, it's a lack of anything resembling common sense at M$GS, which, imho is nothing more than a empty moniker!



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Chibi.V.29 on 15 December 2010
heruamon said:
Reasonable said:

As someone who's just purchased a 360 I certainly hope to see more new IP.  My only real concern with the console, which held me back from getting one for a while, was the relative paucity of what I think of as true exclusives - Halo, Gears, etc. - vs what I thought of (still do TBH) as 'maybe' exclusives, like Bioshock, Mass Effect, GTA Episodes, etc.

I mean, the overall library is strong, and there are a lot of good exclusives, but still, I would like to see a couple more IPs being tried by MS.

Which is what I really can't understand, since they HAVE the IPs.  They also HAVE alot of developers who can work on them, in a second party arrangement as well, but once again, it's a lack of anything resembling common sense at M$GS, which, imho is nothing more than a empty moniker!


pahaha true ^^



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Reasonable on 15 December 2010
heruamon said:
Reasonable said:

As someone who's just purchased a 360 I certainly hope to see more new IP.  My only real concern with the console, which held me back from getting one for a while, was the relative paucity of what I think of as true exclusives - Halo, Gears, etc. - vs what I thought of (still do TBH) as 'maybe' exclusives, like Bioshock, Mass Effect, GTA Episodes, etc.

I mean, the overall library is strong, and there are a lot of good exclusives, but still, I would like to see a couple more IPs being tried by MS.

Which is what I really can't understand, since they HAVE the IPs.  They also HAVE alot of developers who can work on them, in a second party arrangement as well, but once again, it's a lack of anything resembling common sense at M$GS, which, imho is nothing more than a empty moniker!


I think, arguing their (MS) case a bit, its a function of their roots.  I think MS focus is the HW/SDK/infrastructure with the goal of saying to developers - we have good hardware, it's easier to develop for, and we have (via Live) the better infrastructure to support you for online, XLBA, etc.  You provide good games.

In terms of competing in the console world where exclusives traditionally defined the console, I think MS have always taken the approach of trying to support a small number of key titles then either agree exclusives (a'la Alan Wake and Gears) or take the 'get it first on on platform' approach with timed exclusives/DLC.

I can understand that, but like you I'd prefer them to lay off the timed side - which I don't like as a gamer and which I don't see as really being in my long term better interests - and focus more on either expanding their first party or creating more arrangements such as those which delivered Mass Effect originally, Alan Wake, Gears, etc.

I think a lot will depend on 2011 in that regard.  Sony right now for me has the much better lineup of traditional - i.e. non Move/Kinect focused - titles.  Kinect is selling really well and will demand a lot of focus least sales collapse due to lack of support.  So... I think 2011 MS will have to decide where their focus is between Kinect / traditional and how much they need to continue to combat Sony 1st party titles.

I guess now I have Wii/PS3/360 I'm covered any which way - but with all consoles I'd prefer to see each party (which really means Sony/MS for me) focus more on competition via differentiation and new titles rather than timed stuff or relying on established big multi titles like CoD.

I feel Sony is bringing me a lot of new titles I can only get on PS3 next year, and I'd like to see MS in a similar position as well.  Not sure my bank manager would agree though.



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Dinges on 15 December 2010

Timed exclusives are nice for the people who can play them for a year or so before the rest of the gamers can, but long term they don't attract new customers. I bought the 360 because of bioshock, ninja gaiden, mass effect and gears. But now only Gears of War remains the only exclusive (that I like). If I didn't have a console right now, I'd probably buy a PS3 because they have more 'real' exclusives than the 360.

I'm really hoping for a new triple A IP exclusive from MS this year, because I'm done with all the sequels. Too many sequels people (not only by Microsoft)!

 



Zlejedi on 15 December 2010
Vetteman94 said:
heruamon said:

GREAT!

Now that Mass Effect has gone FULLY multiplatform, maybe M$ will get off it’s haunches and get to producing exclusive content using potential Triple-A IPs in it’s library.  One of my favorite games on the old Xbox was Brute Force, and for the life of me, I can’t understand how the heck has M$ let this IP lay dormant for these many years with no significant movement to a new game.  Basically, you’re talking about a 3rd person shooter that allows you to either go the way of Gears of War OR Mass Effect!  You’ve got four distinct characters, very similar to, maybe say a Borderlands, in how they could have some core characteristics, but still be upgradable to develop out your own play style.  To add to it, you could integrate significant RPG, Exploration, Trading, and Space Combat to the game.  It’s not that Microsoft Games Studios lacks IP, it just lacks anybody with any concept of development and vision.  Then again, We’ve not seen a new Freelancer game either, so…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brute_Force_(video_game)


Well dont they still have MechWarrior reboot coming out?   Thats a huge franchise is it not?  If it came out next year it would easily be my favorite game for the year.   

Microsoft sold all rights to MechWarrior series and someone is making new mechwarrior game but i think it was rumored as PS3/X360/PC.

I can only remember Freelancer as big forgoteen IP they have.



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heruamon on 15 December 2010
Zlejedi said:
Vetteman94 said:
heruamon said:

GREAT!

Now that Mass Effect has gone FULLY multiplatform, maybe M$ will get off it’s haunches and get to producing exclusive content using potential Triple-A IPs in it’s library.  One of my favorite games on the old Xbox was Brute Force, and for the life of me, I can’t understand how the heck has M$ let this IP lay dormant for these many years with no significant movement to a new game.  Basically, you’re talking about a 3rd person shooter that allows you to either go the way of Gears of War OR Mass Effect!  You’ve got four distinct characters, very similar to, maybe say a Borderlands, in how they could have some core characteristics, but still be upgradable to develop out your own play style.  To add to it, you could integrate significant RPG, Exploration, Trading, and Space Combat to the game.  It’s not that Microsoft Games Studios lacks IP, it just lacks anybody with any concept of development and vision.  Then again, We’ve not seen a new Freelancer game either, so…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brute_Force_(video_game)


Well dont they still have MechWarrior reboot coming out?   Thats a huge franchise is it not?  If it came out next year it would easily be my favorite game for the year.   

Microsoft sold all rights to MechWarrior series and someone is making new mechwarrior game but i think it was rumored as PS3/X360/PC.

I can only remember Freelancer as big forgoteen IP they have.

They didn't sell the rights...they licensed it back to one of the original creators to allow him to re-boot the franchise:

http://news.bigdownload.com/2009/07/09/new-mechwarrior-game-officially-announced/

The news is dated, and there's been nothing since, so who knows...that was another HUGE waste, since Mechwarrior was one of the gems on the original Xbox.



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