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Tigerlure on 18 December 2010
account2099 said:
huaxiong90 said:
account2099 said:
huaxiong90 said:
account2099 said:

GT5 flopped HARD so id imagine forza 4 doesnt have to try that hard to beat it lol

Take this kind of crap to youtube. Please.


6 years.....84 on metacritic based on 60 reviews.......800 ps2 cars, weird menus, no outer car customization, few online modes, weird shadows and texture quality, etc.'

no crap about it good sir. it is what it is. 

A flop isn't determined by its meta. Sales play a role as well, and its sales are far from a flop.

Now, was it unable to meet the hype of most reviewers? You could say that. But a "FLOP"? Far from one.

And in fact, 84 isn't downright terrible either, even with the criteria you mentioned.

its a quality/hype flop as it was expected to be 90 (AAA). it isnt a commercial flop if thats what your referring to. 

not saying 84 is bad, but when 2 forzas come out this gen and both get 90 on metacritic in less tgime then it took GT5 to come out......you know PD messed up

Yeah, too bad both of those forzas will never match GT5 in sales. You can say whatever you want about GT5, but apparently it's the best driving simulator on a console, even the reviewers who gave GT5 low scores said that (IGN's 10/10 simulator in 5/10 game comment). GT5 isn't an arcade racer like Forza 3, nor does it need to have damage. What you people don't understand is people play GT5 to drive cars, not to crash them. And that is where Forza will probably never match Gran Turismo in. The actual driving experience.

Oh and while we're at it, 3.6m copies say in 3 weeks says Hi.



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huaxiong90 on 18 December 2010
Tigerlure said:

Yeah, too bad both of those forzas will never match GT5 in sales. You can say whatever you want about GT5, but apparently it's the best driving simulator on a console, even the reviewers who gave GT5 low scores said that (IGN's 10/10 simulator in 5/10 game comment). GT5 isn't an arcade racer like Forza 3, nor does it need to have damage. What you people don't understand is people play GT5 to drive cars, not to crash them. And that is where Forza will probably never match Gran Turismo in. The actual driving experience.

Oh and while we're at it, 3.6m copies say in 3 weeks says Hi.

That wasn't necessary, dude. Posts like this only keep the pointless arguments going.



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Tigerlure on 18 December 2010
huaxiong90 said:
Tigerlure said:

Yeah, too bad both of those forzas will never match GT5 in sales. You can say whatever you want about GT5, but apparently it's the best driving simulator on a console, even the reviewers who gave GT5 low scores said that (IGN's 10/10 simulator in 5/10 game comment). GT5 isn't an arcade racer like Forza 3, nor does it need to have damage. What you people don't understand is people play GT5 to drive cars, not to crash them. And that is where Forza will probably never match Gran Turismo in. The actual driving experience.

Oh and while we're at it, 3.6m copies say in 3 weeks says Hi.

That wasn't necessary, dude. Posts like this only keep the pointless arguments going.


You're right, got a little carried away :P What I meant to say was Gran Turismo 5 is still the best console simulator out there, and it's not a flop in any way.



Darc Requiem on 18 December 2010
Chibi.V.29 said:
d21lewis said:

Whatever.  If Forza 4 was as good as they say and they had confidence in it, they would have released it head to head with Sony's franchise instead of waiting a year (or more).  Gran Turismo wouldn't do that!


Thats cos gt's got balls XDDD LONG LIVE THE KING OF RACERS!

I don't know what's funnier D21Lewis, your post or the guy that quoted you without getting it.



kiefer23 on 18 December 2010
Strategyking92 said:
AbbathTheGrim said:

Good luck.


I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you are looking for ransom, I can tell you I don't have money. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills; skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you let my daughter go now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you.

Must watch that film again lol.



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huaxiong90 on 18 December 2010
kiefer23 said:
Strategyking92 said:
AbbathTheGrim said:

Good luck.


I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you are looking for ransom, I can tell you I don't have money. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills; skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you let my daughter go now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you.

Must watch that film again lol.

It's from Taken, right?



Rockstar: Announce Bully 2 already and make gamers proud!

Kojima: Come out with Project S already!

kiefer23 on 18 December 2010
huaxiong90 said:
kiefer23 said:
Strategyking92 said:
AbbathTheGrim said:

Good luck.


I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you are looking for ransom, I can tell you I don't have money. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills; skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you let my daughter go now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you.

Must watch that film again lol.

It's from Taken, right?


Yeah.



Smidlee on 18 December 2010
Reasonable said:
 

There's no way they'll be using Kinect for controls I'd have thought and they mention a controller themselves in the release.  I'm figuring Kinect will be used for head tracking - which could be very cool - as well as reviewing car collection, more interactive modding of cars, etc.

 

If kinect is used for head tracking then it will run into the exact same problem that GT5 head tracking has... 512MB of ram limit. I think GT5 has proven that you can only do so much with only 512mb of ram.
The real question how much can Turn 10 add to Froza 4 before it suffers from console ram limit just as Gt5 and F1 2010 did.



Smidlee on 18 December 2010
oni-link said:
 

 GT5 is a sales success but also has many dissapointments scoring less than Forza3 in gamerankings etc.

Some of it lower score is due to the fact Gt5 leans more toward sim as some reviews noted. The most realisitc sim doesn't necessary means it will recieve a higher score. Even ISR end up scoring Fm3 and Dirt 2 a higher score than Iracing yet they admitted there no better sim than Iracing. ISR also admitted they got carried away with Fm3 and rated it higher than they should after they played it for a while.



oni-link on 19 December 2010
Smidlee said:
oni-link said:
 

 GT5 is a sales success but also has many dissapointments scoring less than Forza3 in gamerankings etc.

Some of it lower score is due to the fact Gt5 leans more toward sim as some reviews noted. The most realisitc sim doesn't necessary means it will recieve a higher score. Even ISR end up scoring Fm3 and Dirt 2 a higher score than Iracing yet they admitted there no better sim than Iracing. ISR also admitted they got carried away with Fm3 and rated it higher than they should after they played it for a while.


yeah, yeah, but all I am saying is M$ has a strong franchise in it's hands and probably be the closest franchise that could eventually topple the GT series.