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account2099 said:
huaxiong90 said:
account2099 said:
huaxiong90 said:
account2099 said:

GT5 flopped HARD so id imagine forza 4 doesnt have to try that hard to beat it lol

Take this kind of crap to youtube. Please.


6 years.....84 on metacritic based on 60 reviews.......800 ps2 cars, weird menus, no outer car customization, few online modes, weird shadows and texture quality, etc.'

no crap about it good sir. it is what it is. 

A flop isn't determined by its meta. Sales play a role as well, and its sales are far from a flop.

Now, was it unable to meet the hype of most reviewers? You could say that. But a "FLOP"? Far from one.

And in fact, 84 isn't downright terrible either, even with the criteria you mentioned.

its a quality/hype flop as it was expected to be 90 (AAA). it isnt a commercial flop if thats what your referring to. 

not saying 84 is bad, but when 2 forzas come out this gen and both get 90 on metacritic in less tgime then it took GT5 to come out......you know PD messed up

Yeah, too bad both of those forzas will never match GT5 in sales. You can say whatever you want about GT5, but apparently it's the best driving simulator on a console, even the reviewers who gave GT5 low scores said that (IGN's 10/10 simulator in 5/10 game comment). GT5 isn't an arcade racer like Forza 3, nor does it need to have damage. What you people don't understand is people play GT5 to drive cars, not to crash them. And that is where Forza will probably never match Gran Turismo in. The actual driving experience.

Oh and while we're at it, 3.6m copies say in 3 weeks says Hi.