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bannedagain said:
Chairman-Mao said:

This thread lasted 6 posts before someone had to go on a religious rant instead of just a yes or no. 



Look at the way they got disgusted because someone wasn't a christain. Christain hand it to us non believers daily.

So I gave a little back and it wasn't a rant it was my thoughts and a little science and logic.

It's a blog!

Umm unless a post got deleted I believe Chairman-Mao was refering to your athiest rant which was six posts into this thread. Couldn't you have just said "I'm athiest rather then attacking the OP for being Christian?

At the OP I'm sorry to say but their are alot of closed minded Athiests on this site. The closed minded Athiests just will not accept that you have a different belief then they do. Don't get me wrong their are a few open minded educated Athiests on VGChartz as well. But you commited Thread suicide when you indicated you were Christian.

I won't get into the debate of whether my faith is scientifically proven or theirs is because it will lead no where when people have decided what they believe. Its impossible to reason with anyone who blindly believes their belief is the only right one.



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HappySqurriel said:
Bobbuffalo said:
leatherhat said:

Atheists are people that bust religious peoples balls over believing in God when there is no proof, completely forgetting that there is no proof God doesn't exist as well.

That's not atheism. Atheism is simply that you won't believe blindly in something unless there are proofs. If there are proofs that God exists then I'll accept it because there's a proof of it.

But so far there isn't and no religion has proved it yet.

That stance is more in line with being agnostic ...

Agnostics (like myself) generally respect other people's religious views but don't believe there is significant evidence to support the view that god exists.

I truly think there is little difference between an atheist and an agnostic. They both are skeptical and non-religous.  And an atheist can respect the good that religion has done even if they believe that no one true religion is possible.



I don't believe in a supernatural god that can break laws of science.

 

By most people's definitions, that would make me an atheist. 

 

We keep finding more and more scientific evidence to explain things we couldn't before and I think we will keep finding more scientific evidence.

 

I do get tired of people saying that atheists can't have any morals or virtues.  What ever happened to the idea that we would do to others what we would want done to us.  It doesn't require believing that there is something watching you to know that stealing, killing, etc. is wrong.



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I like Bacon said:

I am. and yes, I celebrate Christmas! :D You don't have to be religious to be a good person, or to spread happiness, cheer,  and all of that Christmas stuff. =3

Christmas isn't even a religious holiday anymore, it's just a holiday. It's already proven (or strongly supported since this stuff is near impossible to prove) that Jesus' birth was not on Christmas day.



FinalEvangelion said:

I don't believe in a supernatural god that can break laws of science.

 

By most people's definitions, that would make me an atheist. 

 

We keep finding more and more scientific evidence to explain things we couldn't before and I think we will keep finding more scientific evidence.

 

I do get tired of people saying that atheists can't have any morals or virtues.  What ever happened to the idea that we would do to others what we would want done to us.  It doesn't require believing that there is something watching you to know that stealing, killing, etc. is wrong.

There actually are a number of religions that maintain God does not intervene. The reasoning is that God would not intervene because if He intervened, He would be acknowledging that His creation was not perfect. To put simply, there is no need to intervene in a universe that is already perfect. Any change would just make the universe less perfect.



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chocoloco said:
HappySqurriel said:
Bobbuffalo said:
leatherhat said:

Atheists are people that bust religious peoples balls over believing in God when there is no proof, completely forgetting that there is no proof God doesn't exist as well.

That's not atheism. Atheism is simply that you won't believe blindly in something unless there are proofs. If there are proofs that God exists then I'll accept it because there's a proof of it.

But so far there isn't and no religion has proved it yet.

That stance is more in line with being agnostic ...

Agnostics (like myself) generally respect other people's religious views but don't believe there is significant evidence to support the view that god exists.

I truly think there is little difference between an atheist and an agnostic. They both are skeptical and non-religous.  And an atheist can respect the good that religion has done even if they believe that no one true religion is possible.

They are distinctly different groups though. Skepticism maintains we cannot have knowledge, and atheists argue we can know that God does not exist. Agnostics are more in line with skepticism because they maintain we cannot assess the truth of religious claims. Atheists are obviously going to disagree because they claim we can know that God does not exist.



yes i am an atheist.

i take issue with people believing in a god because its in a book, makes me question humanitys intelligence.  this was ok hundreds of years ago but we have learned enough about ourselves/our history to discount theses fiction filled books.



bannedagain said:

Evolution has so many supporting facts that believeing in a book or a  founded religion is close to being in the dark.

I can't say what there is but I for one don't believe in any set religion. I think there could be a god but I'm sure no one really has a clue of what that is. 

M-thoery seems to state that the universe has and always willl be, bumping into other universes membrane;s and creating matter every time that happens( the BIG BANG).

So I will stick with the intellegent nonbiased scientist, rather then a religion who has burned people at the stake or bombed a building. Don't say that this is not what it's about and to some point not but the is a lot of talk of vengence in the bible against people of non-belief or of another god. It contradicts itself. They have recently just cleaned up there actions and some have not.

I bet bruno would be laughing in he's grave at all that he was right about.

I do agree that religion has stopped some people from being nut bags but your always going to have them. The point is that everyone should live up to moral beliefs. Society expects that from you and you should too. I just don't agree with the way they do it. Believe or go to hell, Making people fearful is great and all but we as people can move past cave man days and be civilised as people.  a lot of people's actions pertain to the frontal lube and experience anyway and we are on the verge of pushing science to new levels to maybe help people grow or replace parts of there frontal lube to help them make better decision making.

 

SO YOU SHOULD NOT JUDGE ANYONE'S MORAL BELIEFS BECAUSE THEY DON'T BELIEVE IN A SET RELIGION. THATS BIASED AND PREGITEST.  She could have better mannerism then you ever thought of and yet you think it's unbelieveable that she thinks different and goes by the smartest people in the world beliefs and life achievements in science.

Charles Darwin: look him up some time.

or look at virus's and germs. They mutate and evolve on a faster scale because they  have way shorter lifespans and evolveing for the greater good takes new generations of time to change.

P.S people are not evil because they are not religous and actually a lot of them are way more moral then church going people that think it's ok cause jesus will forgive me!

Hope I didn't affend you but to be shocked that someone doesn't follow in a traditional way you think they should, Just makes you the judgemental person. I go to weddings and all sorts of places that I got to hear what I think is a joke but I don't judge everyone around me as a nut bag because the have a different belief then me. I also don't push it on people and advertise or talk down to. So maybe some of you should look in the mirror.



Nah man, I wasn't being judgemental. I just couldn't believe she was an atheist. The last part of my post was more of a joke.

PS : And I apologize if I seemed judgemental or close minded in my post. My intentions were not to question or mock what other's believe in. I provided a story as to why I started the thread. And I wanted an idea of how many athiets are on this site.



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Joelcool7 said:
bannedagain said:
Chairman-Mao said:

This thread lasted 6 posts before someone had to go on a religious rant instead of just a yes or no. 



Look at the way they got disgusted because someone wasn't a christain. Christain hand it to us non believers daily.

So I gave a little back and it wasn't a rant it was my thoughts and a little science and logic.

It's a blog!

Umm unless a post got deleted I believe Chairman-Mao was refering to your athiest rant which was six posts into this thread. Couldn't you have just said "I'm athiest rather then attacking the OP for being Christian?

At the OP I'm sorry to say but their are alot of closed minded Athiests on this site. The closed minded Athiests just will not accept that you have a different belief then they do. Don't get me wrong their are a few open minded educated Athiests on VGChartz as well. But you commited Thread suicide when you indicated you were Christian.

I won't get into the debate of whether my faith is scientifically proven or theirs is because it will lead no where when people have decided what they believe. Its impossible to reason with anyone who blindly believes their belief is the only right one.


Thanks for the heads up.



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NiKKoM said:

I don't think anyone here is "Atheits"....  >_>



My bad for the wording.



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