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stopstopp on 04 December 2010
Degausser said:

 It's worth remembering that a portion of these legs are simply due to price cuts. How much it's very hard for us to tell, but even some of the games listed in the original post are half price or better in the UK alongside their apparent rise in sales. 

 Some of the sales used are distorted by Black Friday too, which is fine, but chances are some of the trends you're alluding to are going to be exclusive to the last 5 weeks of the year.


Provide 5 examples of full time price cuts on first party nintendo. I want to see these supposed price cuts



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MrT-Tar on 04 December 2010
stopstopp said:
Degausser said:

 It's worth remembering that a portion of these legs are simply due to price cuts. How much it's very hard for us to tell, but even some of the games listed in the original post are half price or better in the UK alongside their apparent rise in sales. 

 Some of the sales used are distorted by Black Friday too, which is fine, but chances are some of the trends you're alluding to are going to be exclusive to the last 5 weeks of the year.


Provide 5 examples of full time price cuts on first party nintendo. I want to see these supposed price cuts

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Disaster-Day-Of-Crisis-Wii/dp/B000FNJ0IK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1291500421&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Metroid-Prime-3-Corruption-Wii/dp/B000FQBPDU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1291500473&sr=1-1

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wario-Ware-Smooth-Moves-Wii/dp/B000FQ9YB0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1291500543&sr=1-1

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Legend-Zelda-Twilight-Princess-Wii/dp/B000FQBPCQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1291500588&sr=1-1

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nintendo-90017-Big-Brain-Academy/dp/B000OAO188/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1291500622&sr=1-1

These are all 1st party and I can provide some more if you want




nintenfan.com on 04 December 2010

Monster Hunter tri is under 50 dollars, where? Here in Minnesota the game is sold for $50.00 at Walmart, Target and Gamestop. I know because I just bought it. Capcom isn't dropping prices on Monster Hunter Tri anywhere from what I can see.



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Degausser on 04 December 2010
stopstopp said:
Degausser said:

 It's worth remembering that a portion of these legs are simply due to price cuts. How much it's very hard for us to tell, but even some of the games listed in the original post are half price or better in the UK alongside their apparent rise in sales. 

 Some of the sales used are distorted by Black Friday too, which is fine, but chances are some of the trends you're alluding to are going to be exclusive to the last 5 weeks of the year.


Provide 5 examples of full time price cuts on first party nintendo. I want to see these supposed price cuts

 There are some, albeit first party titles are rarer.

 My post was more aimed at the third party titles listed in the OP though, such as Sonic Colors (Already £17 / £10 with another game), Monster Hunter Tri (£17) and seems to be a trend with when a Wii games sales pick up. I've no idea how things are in the USA, but from what I've gathered and read, the legs often have alot in common with price cuts. I'm not trying to put a downer on anything here, just pointing it out.



Degausser on 04 December 2010
Conegamer said:
Degausser said:

 It's worth remembering that a portion of these legs are simply due to price cuts. How much it's very hard for us to tell, but even some of the games listed in the original post are half price or better in the UK alongside their apparent rise in sales. 

 Some of the sales used are distorted by Black Friday too, which is fine, but chances are some of the trends you're alluding to are going to be exclusive to the last 5 weeks of the year.

The issue is that, as can clearly be seen (and as many will tell you), the legs for a Wii game are somewhat larger than that for the HD twins. Why is this? Is it due to a price cut? Doubtful; Nintendo games hardly ever get price cuts yet they keep selling at a steady rate!

The Wii games are more "evergreen". The Wi is known for some titles (NSMBWii, MKWii, Wii fit) and new people buying a Wii get one of these titles with it as well. Therefore, as long as the Wii continues to sell, so will these games.

That's my theory anyway, and with that I shall see you later!

 I don't view the legs of first party titles the same as third party.

 I think Nintendo games keep selling simply because they have such massive appeal, and Nintendo don't let them fall in price. Hell, I've seen advert for both NSMBWii and Mario Kart Wii this month, Nintendo are still advertising these games, putting them at the front of store shelves etc. Nintendo have got this down to an absolute tee and are doing magnificient.

 The third party games however, which show legs, as shown in the OP often do so after price cuts. The third parties just haven't got their games to hold their price and keep selling like Nintendo do, for whatever reason. My guess is simply that when a customer goes into buy a Wii game, they don't care what came out last week, they care that one is $40 and the other is $50, whereas Nintendo games hold enough appeal to convince them otherwise, or something. 

 I've thought about this alot before and really need to write alot more to explain my though behind this, but it's almost midnight here so tonight is not the right time :P.

 If this thread is still bumping around when i have a looksie on here tommorow I'll expand my thoughts a bit if it seems to fit conversation.



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-PaNdOrA- on 04 December 2010

I'm glad to see both GoldenEye and Black Ops doing so well. HVS dodged a huge bullet by delaying Conduit 2. Hopefully that does well too.



Conegamer on 05 December 2010
Degausser said:
stopstopp said:
Degausser said:

 It's worth remembering that a portion of these legs are simply due to price cuts. How much it's very hard for us to tell, but even some of the games listed in the original post are half price or better in the UK alongside their apparent rise in sales. 

 Some of the sales used are distorted by Black Friday too, which is fine, but chances are some of the trends you're alluding to are going to be exclusive to the last 5 weeks of the year.


Provide 5 examples of full time price cuts on first party nintendo. I want to see these supposed price cuts

 There are some, albeit first party titles are rarer.

 My post was more aimed at the third party titles listed in the OP though, such as Sonic Colors (Already £17 / £10 with another game), Monster Hunter Tri (£17) and seems to be a trend with when a Wii games sales pick up. I've no idea how things are in the USA, but from what I've gathered and read, the legs often have alot in common with price cuts. I'm not trying to put a downer on anything here, just pointing it out.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me where you can get Tri new for £17. I want to get it for a friend for Christmas but it's too expensive. As someone else has already said, they can't see it for any less than it's RRP...

Also, almost every game gets a price-cut at some point, but a price cut doesn't have the same prolonged effect on sales as games on the Wii do, and has been shown (in the OP)



 

Here lies the dearly departed Nintendomination Thread.

Conegamer on 05 December 2010
Degausser said:
Conegamer said:
Degausser said:

 It's worth remembering that a portion of these legs are simply due to price cuts. How much it's very hard for us to tell, but even some of the games listed in the original post are half price or better in the UK alongside their apparent rise in sales. 

 Some of the sales used are distorted by Black Friday too, which is fine, but chances are some of the trends you're alluding to are going to be exclusive to the last 5 weeks of the year.

The issue is that, as can clearly be seen (and as many will tell you), the legs for a Wii game are somewhat larger than that for the HD twins. Why is this? Is it due to a price cut? Doubtful; Nintendo games hardly ever get price cuts yet they keep selling at a steady rate!

The Wii games are more "evergreen". The Wi is known for some titles (NSMBWii, MKWii, Wii fit) and new people buying a Wii get one of these titles with it as well. Therefore, as long as the Wii continues to sell, so will these games.

That's my theory anyway, and with that I shall see you later!

 I don't view the legs of first party titles the same as third party.

 I think Nintendo games keep selling simply because they have such massive appeal, and Nintendo don't let them fall in price. Hell, I've seen advert for both NSMBWii and Mario Kart Wii this month, Nintendo are still advertising these games, putting them at the front of store shelves etc. Nintendo have got this down to an absolute tee and are doing magnificient.

 The third party games however, which show legs, as shown in the OP often do so after price cuts. The third parties just haven't got their games to hold their price and keep selling like Nintendo do, for whatever reason. My guess is simply that when a customer goes into buy a Wii game, they don't care what came out last week, they care that one is $40 and the other is $50, whereas Nintendo games hold enough appeal to convince them otherwise, or something. 

 I've thought about this alot before and really need to write alot more to explain my though behind this, but it's almost midnight here so tonight is not the right time :P.

 If this thread is still bumping around when i have a looksie on here tommorow I'll expand my thoughts a bit if it seems to fit conversation.

I would enjoy that

However, your point does seem to have some relevance...however, if that's the case, why does Just Dance keep on selling? That hasn't got a price cut?

You could say that's a bugdet game, so how about Mario and Sonic?

You could say that's brand recognition, so how about de Blob?

 

Basically, for every game there's a reason for a slight bump in sales (price cut, brand recognition etc.) but since it occurs so regularly and so often on the Wii then there has to be more to the Wii audience which I don't understand...

Nintendo games are the largest anomolies here, but they have both 



 

Here lies the dearly departed Nintendomination Thread.

Degausser on 05 December 2010
Conegamer said:
Degausser said:
stopstopp said:
Degausser said:

 It's worth remembering that a portion of these legs are simply due to price cuts. How much it's very hard for us to tell, but even some of the games listed in the original post are half price or better in the UK alongside their apparent rise in sales. 

 Some of the sales used are distorted by Black Friday too, which is fine, but chances are some of the trends you're alluding to are going to be exclusive to the last 5 weeks of the year.


Provide 5 examples of full time price cuts on first party nintendo. I want to see these supposed price cuts

 There are some, albeit first party titles are rarer.

 My post was more aimed at the third party titles listed in the OP though, such as Sonic Colors (Already £17 / £10 with another game), Monster Hunter Tri (£17) and seems to be a trend with when a Wii games sales pick up. I've no idea how things are in the USA, but from what I've gathered and read, the legs often have alot in common with price cuts. I'm not trying to put a downer on anything here, just pointing it out.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me where you can get Tri new for £17. I want to get it for a friend for Christmas but it's too expensive. As someone else has already said, they can't see it for any less than it's RRP...

Also, almost every game gets a price-cut at some point, but a price cut doesn't have the same prolonged effect on sales as games on the Wii do, and has been shown (in the OP)

 Cheapest is £19 now, was £17 a few weeks:

http://www.shopto.net/WII/VIDEO GAMES/WIIMO13-Monster Hunter Tri.html?affiliate_source=aw&awc=2943_1291553782_22d3329ff3bcf0f861dfb0fe878e7dc0

EDIT: IT's also under £10 if you can get into a Costco, but not many people can. Worth a mention :P. Might be store specific but I got it for £9.95 at Milton Keynes Costco :D.

 My suggestion is the prolonged effect of sales on the Wii is caused by the price cut, but only on the Wii. The two go hand in hand. It's very hard to quantify, and is obviously just based off my experience in the UK, but I typically don't see Wii games (Bar Nintendo's own) hold their price for very long, and they quickly become dirt cheap (Got Madworld for £4, Samba Di Amigo £5) etc.

 It's somewhere in the middle of the two anyway, and probably varies on a case by case basis. The NPD figures for 2009 were that first party Wii games sold for on average $55 per copy, whereas third party sold on average $37 per copy, which to me suggest price cuts have to be considered somewhere for third party software.

 (Source is from Micheal Pachter when he responded to Neogaf). It ran the news on a number of sites earlier in the year.



Squilliam on 05 December 2010

A low price is what a lot of third parties have complained about and I did see data from Pachter in the past supporting this fact.

Anyway the Wii software, especially 3rd party seems to be like boutique software in a way and in how the software market works. There are a reasonable number of titles vying for shelf space and a limited number of slots. So just by being on shelves should give a title a certain level of sales but only so long as the shelf space for the Wii remains plentiful and the game remains on the shelf.



Tease.