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kitler53 on 13 December 2007

good job ioi, great estimates as always!!

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Yojimbo on 13 December 2007

omgwtfbbq said:

grandmaster192 said:
"I presume you don't know the SDF?"

No. However, I do know that you were trolling -- posting only to aggravate other members and to start flame wars.

well you know wrong. Go visit www.sonydefenseforce.com and then you'll understand why he did what he did.

Although the most likely thing SDF will do with these NPD numbers is ignore them.

NJ5 were not joking he is getting pretty boring now. Its not a joke when you constantly try to bash a system.

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NJ5 on 13 December 2007

Yojimbo said:

omgwtfbbq said:

grandmaster192 said:
"I presume you don't know the SDF?"

No. However, I do know that you were trolling -- posting only to aggravate other members and to start flame wars.

well you know wrong. Go visit www.sonydefenseforce.com and then you'll understand why he did what he did.

Although the most likely thing SDF will do with these NPD numbers is ignore them.

NJ5 were not joking he is getting pretty boring now. Its not a joke when you constantly try to bash a system.

Don't be a loser. I was making a joke on the SDF, which almost everyone here understood. If you didn't, live with it. If you did, don't attack me for the sake of attacking.

Just for you guys, I added an EDIT to my original post. Happy now?

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Spectrumglr on 13 December 2007

kitler53 said:
good job ioi, great estimates as always!!

yes, if we are to trust NPD this is the best "prediction" by ioi (BTW i know that ioi's aren't predictions but sales estimates) ...i don't think that we should consider NPD over VGCharts though

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darthdevidem on 13 December 2007

Ok can people get over the joke NJ 5 made...it was quite a good one at that....

I really think PS3 is lacking in USA though..$400 couldn't do "that" much

I was REALLY HOPING for something over 500K

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eugene on 13 December 2007

Mass Effect was seriously understracked! It sold 473k in the last 10 days of November in America alone

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Yojimbo on 13 December 2007

NJ5 said:

Yojimbo said:

omgwtfbbq said:

grandmaster192 said:
"I presume you don't know the SDF?"

No. However, I do know that you were trolling -- posting only to aggravate other members and to start flame wars.

well you know wrong. Go visit www.sonydefenseforce.com and then you'll understand why he did what he did.

Although the most likely thing SDF will do with these NPD numbers is ignore them.

NJ5 were not joking he is getting pretty boring now. Its not a joke when you constantly try to bash a system.

Don't be a loser. I was making a joke on the SDF, which almost everyone here understood. If you didn't, live with it. If you did, don't attack me for the sake of attacking.

I would have thought it was funny if anyone else did it, but I can see trough your bullshit. When are you doing to change?

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Rubang B on 13 December 2007

THE JOKE WAS FUCKING HILARIOUS. I DID NOT TYPE A "LULZ" I AM SORRY BECAUSE I WAS TOO BUSY LAUGHING CAPS LOCK SUCKERS.

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Sqrl on 13 December 2007

naznatips said:

tokilamockingbrd said:
Not bad really, I am sure that VGC would like to be able to get it within the .05 alpha, but not bad.

It's really impossible for any tracking service without 80% retail sources to ever have less than 10% margin of error. Even NPD isn't anywhere near this, and their numbers have in the past been far off of reported shipping numbers. Media Create and Famitsu both hold about 60% retail data for Japan and yet disagree greatly on various things. Being wtihin 15% is pretty good. Past that VGC adjusts to official shipping reports and releases comparisons to NPD numbers.

@ Naz,

0.05 alpha is not the same as 5% margin of error.

A margin of error has a confidence level associated with it and essentially 0.05 alpha corresponds to a 95% confidence level which is extremely standard in modern statistical applications.

ie. The margin of error at the 95% confidence level is ____. They are very related but not quite the same thing.

With that said I don't disagree with your comments at all, just wanted to inform you of the difference~

PS - I'm fairly confident that is correct, if anyone else with more stats experience could confirm I would appreciate it~