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daroamer on 13 February 2011
Edgeoflife said:

Kinect sold like 8 million in less then 2 months, since then it hasn't even sold 1 million more thats a drop off of over 80% nothing else dropped off even close to that much 

You sure about that?  Let's take a look:

In Dec Kinect sold - 3,964,263

In Dec PS3 sold - 3,087,016

Kinect Jan - 993,875 (25% of what it sold in Dec)

PS3 Jan - 992,692 (32% of what it sold in Dec)

Hardly a huge difference.  Of course, we're talking consoles vs an add-on that just launched so let's compare to something else:

From launch until end of Dec Kinect sold - 7,171,194

For the same period GT5 (PS3s biggest exclusive) sold - 5,076,495

Also Sports Champions (bundles with Move in many places) sold - 1,970,461

Now let's look at January sales:

Kinect - 993,875 (13.8% of what it had sold total up until that point)

GT5 - 337,178 (7.4% of what it had sold up until that point)

Sports Champions - 176,313 (8% of what it had sold up until that point)

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So no, you're wrong.  It's doing just fine and, in the case of software, better than other products.  Of course, I'm sure you knew that anyway.



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Edgeoflife on 13 February 2011
daroamer said:
Edgeoflife said:

Kinect sold like 8 million in less then 2 months, since then it hasn't even sold 1 million more thats a drop off of over 80% nothing else dropped off even close to that much 

You sure about that?  Let's take a look:

In Dec Kinect sold - 3,964,263

In Dec PS3 sold - 3,087,016

Kinect Jan - 993,875 (25% of what it sold in Dec)

PS3 Jan - 992,692 (32% of what it sold in Dec)

Hardly a huge difference.  Of course, we're talking consoles vs an add-on that just launched so let's compare to something else:

From launch until end of Dec Kinect sold - 7,171,194

For the same period GT5 (PS3s biggest exclusive) sold - 5,076,495

Also Sports Champions (bundles with Move in many places) sold - 1,970,461

Now let's look at January sales:

Kinect - 993,875 (13.8% of what it had sold total up until that point)

GT5 - 337,178 (7.4% of what it had sold up until that point)

Sports Champions - 176,313 (8% of what it had sold up until that point)

===========

So no, you're wrong.  It's doing just fine and, in the case of software, better than other products.  Of course, I'm sure you knew that anyway.

No I'm not wrong, MS annouced that Kinect sold 8 million at the end of december, and as for sports champions it's not always bundled unlike kinect adventures so the compairson isn't fair, it's like if I compared Heavy Rains sales to Dance central, and again kinect is constantly dropping and it's not going to go back up and it was advertised more then anything pretty much ever with that much advertising it better sell that much 



daroamer on 13 February 2011
Edgeoflife said:
daroamer said:
Edgeoflife said:

Kinect sold like 8 million in less then 2 months, since then it hasn't even sold 1 million more thats a drop off of over 80% nothing else dropped off even close to that much 

You sure about that?  Let's take a look:

In Dec Kinect sold - 3,964,263

In Dec PS3 sold - 3,087,016

Kinect Jan - 993,875 (25% of what it sold in Dec)

PS3 Jan - 992,692 (32% of what it sold in Dec)

Hardly a huge difference.  Of course, we're talking consoles vs an add-on that just launched so let's compare to something else:

From launch until end of Dec Kinect sold - 7,171,194

For the same period GT5 (PS3s biggest exclusive) sold - 5,076,495

Also Sports Champions (bundles with Move in many places) sold - 1,970,461

Now let's look at January sales:

Kinect - 993,875 (13.8% of what it had sold total up until that point)

GT5 - 337,178 (7.4% of what it had sold up until that point)

Sports Champions - 176,313 (8% of what it had sold up until that point)

===========

So no, you're wrong.  It's doing just fine and, in the case of software, better than other products.  Of course, I'm sure you knew that anyway.

No I'm not wrong, MS annouced that Kinect sold 8 million at the end of december, and as for sports champions it's not always bundled unlike kinect adventures so the compairson isn't fair, it's like if I compared Heavy Rains sales to Dance central, and again kinect is constantly dropping and it's not going to go back up and it was advertised more then anything pretty much ever with that much advertising it better sell that much 

8 million shipped, not sold.  VGC had end of Dec sales at just over 7 million.  If you're not using VGC numbers then where are you getting the figure for how much it has sold since then?

Also the fact other products dropped even more than Kinect did.  How do you explain the huge drop in GT5 sales? It's down 93%. 



Edgeoflife on 13 February 2011
daroamer said:
Edgeoflife said:
daroamer said:
Edgeoflife said:

Kinect sold like 8 million in less then 2 months, since then it hasn't even sold 1 million more thats a drop off of over 80% nothing else dropped off even close to that much 

You sure about that?  Let's take a look:

In Dec Kinect sold - 3,964,263

In Dec PS3 sold - 3,087,016

Kinect Jan - 993,875 (25% of what it sold in Dec)

PS3 Jan - 992,692 (32% of what it sold in Dec)

Hardly a huge difference.  Of course, we're talking consoles vs an add-on that just launched so let's compare to something else:

From launch until end of Dec Kinect sold - 7,171,194

For the same period GT5 (PS3s biggest exclusive) sold - 5,076,495

Also Sports Champions (bundles with Move in many places) sold - 1,970,461

Now let's look at January sales:

Kinect - 993,875 (13.8% of what it had sold total up until that point)

GT5 - 337,178 (7.4% of what it had sold up until that point)

Sports Champions - 176,313 (8% of what it had sold up until that point)

===========

So no, you're wrong.  It's doing just fine and, in the case of software, better than other products.  Of course, I'm sure you knew that anyway.

No I'm not wrong, MS annouced that Kinect sold 8 million at the end of december, and as for sports champions it's not always bundled unlike kinect adventures so the compairson isn't fair, it's like if I compared Heavy Rains sales to Dance central, and again kinect is constantly dropping and it's not going to go back up and it was advertised more then anything pretty much ever with that much advertising it better sell that much 

8 million shipped, not sold.  VGC had end of Dec sales at just over 7 million.  If you're not using VGC numbers then where are you getting the figure for how much it has sold since then?

Also the fact other products dropped even more than Kinect did.  How do you explain the huge drop in GT5 sales? It's down 93%. 

Kinect is a periphiral not a game, for a periphiral to survive it needs legs, Kinect doesn't have legs, it will keep droping and thats pretty much all there is to it 



superryo on 13 February 2011

Why is Sony even commenting against Kinect... why do Sony fanboys even care about sales of Kinect?  Fact is Kinect is doing fine - probably much better than they want it to and they are threatened by it.  Instead of bad mouthing Kinect, they should focus on delivering quality software and their own products.  It seems like the same criticism of Wii is starting all over but as you can see Nintendo did their own thing and look where they are now.  If Sony would deliver games like DCU Online then they have gamers like myself buying and playing on PS3.  If MS can encourage their developers and partners to release fun games like Dance Central then I'll keep buying Kinect games.  It's as simple as that.  No amount of bad mouthing from gamers who do not even own the product will change that.



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daroamer on 13 February 2011
Edgeoflife said:
daroamer said:
Edgeoflife said:
daroamer said:
Edgeoflife said:

Kinect sold like 8 million in less then 2 months, since then it hasn't even sold 1 million more thats a drop off of over 80% nothing else dropped off even close to that much 

You sure about that?  Let's take a look:

In Dec Kinect sold - 3,964,263

In Dec PS3 sold - 3,087,016

Kinect Jan - 993,875 (25% of what it sold in Dec)

PS3 Jan - 992,692 (32% of what it sold in Dec)

Hardly a huge difference.  Of course, we're talking consoles vs an add-on that just launched so let's compare to something else:

From launch until end of Dec Kinect sold - 7,171,194

For the same period GT5 (PS3s biggest exclusive) sold - 5,076,495

Also Sports Champions (bundles with Move in many places) sold - 1,970,461

Now let's look at January sales:

Kinect - 993,875 (13.8% of what it had sold total up until that point)

GT5 - 337,178 (7.4% of what it had sold up until that point)

Sports Champions - 176,313 (8% of what it had sold up until that point)

===========

So no, you're wrong.  It's doing just fine and, in the case of software, better than other products.  Of course, I'm sure you knew that anyway.

No I'm not wrong, MS annouced that Kinect sold 8 million at the end of december, and as for sports champions it's not always bundled unlike kinect adventures so the compairson isn't fair, it's like if I compared Heavy Rains sales to Dance central, and again kinect is constantly dropping and it's not going to go back up and it was advertised more then anything pretty much ever with that much advertising it better sell that much 

8 million shipped, not sold.  VGC had end of Dec sales at just over 7 million.  If you're not using VGC numbers then where are you getting the figure for how much it has sold since then?

Also the fact other products dropped even more than Kinect did.  How do you explain the huge drop in GT5 sales? It's down 93%. 

Kinect is a periphiral not a game, for a periphiral to survive it needs legs, Kinect doesn't have legs, it will keep droping and thats pretty much all there is to it 

 

Edgeoflife said:

Kinect sold like 8 million in less then 2 months, since then it hasn't even sold 1 million more thats a drop off of over 80% nothing else dropped off even close to that much 

So what did you mean by "nothing else"?  Give me a comparison.



Edgeoflife on 13 February 2011
daroamer said:
Edgeoflife said:
daroamer said:
Edgeoflife said:
daroamer said:
Edgeoflife said:

Kinect sold like 8 million in less then 2 months, since then it hasn't even sold 1 million more thats a drop off of over 80% nothing else dropped off even close to that much 

You sure about that?  Let's take a look:

In Dec Kinect sold - 3,964,263

In Dec PS3 sold - 3,087,016

Kinect Jan - 993,875 (25% of what it sold in Dec)

PS3 Jan - 992,692 (32% of what it sold in Dec)

Hardly a huge difference.  Of course, we're talking consoles vs an add-on that just launched so let's compare to something else:

From launch until end of Dec Kinect sold - 7,171,194

For the same period GT5 (PS3s biggest exclusive) sold - 5,076,495

Also Sports Champions (bundles with Move in many places) sold - 1,970,461

Now let's look at January sales:

Kinect - 993,875 (13.8% of what it had sold total up until that point)

GT5 - 337,178 (7.4% of what it had sold up until that point)

Sports Champions - 176,313 (8% of what it had sold up until that point)

===========

So no, you're wrong.  It's doing just fine and, in the case of software, better than other products.  Of course, I'm sure you knew that anyway.

No I'm not wrong, MS annouced that Kinect sold 8 million at the end of december, and as for sports champions it's not always bundled unlike kinect adventures so the compairson isn't fair, it's like if I compared Heavy Rains sales to Dance central, and again kinect is constantly dropping and it's not going to go back up and it was advertised more then anything pretty much ever with that much advertising it better sell that much 

8 million shipped, not sold.  VGC had end of Dec sales at just over 7 million.  If you're not using VGC numbers then where are you getting the figure for how much it has sold since then?

Also the fact other products dropped even more than Kinect did.  How do you explain the huge drop in GT5 sales? It's down 93%. 

Kinect is a periphiral not a game, for a periphiral to survive it needs legs, Kinect doesn't have legs, it will keep droping and thats pretty much all there is to it 

 

Edgeoflife said:

Kinect sold like 8 million in less then 2 months, since then it hasn't even sold 1 million more thats a drop off of over 80% nothing else dropped off even close to that much 

So what did you mean by "nothing else"?  Give me a comparison.

Hardware 



daroamer on 13 February 2011
Edgeoflife said:
daroamer said:
Edgeoflife said:
daroamer said:
Edgeoflife said:
daroamer said:
Edgeoflife said:

Kinect sold like 8 million in less then 2 months, since then it hasn't even sold 1 million more thats a drop off of over 80% nothing else dropped off even close to that much 

You sure about that?  Let's take a look:

In Dec Kinect sold - 3,964,263

In Dec PS3 sold - 3,087,016

Kinect Jan - 993,875 (25% of what it sold in Dec)

PS3 Jan - 992,692 (32% of what it sold in Dec)

Hardly a huge difference.  Of course, we're talking consoles vs an add-on that just launched so let's compare to something else:

From launch until end of Dec Kinect sold - 7,171,194

For the same period GT5 (PS3s biggest exclusive) sold - 5,076,495

Also Sports Champions (bundles with Move in many places) sold - 1,970,461

Now let's look at January sales:

Kinect - 993,875 (13.8% of what it had sold total up until that point)

GT5 - 337,178 (7.4% of what it had sold up until that point)

Sports Champions - 176,313 (8% of what it had sold up until that point)

===========

So no, you're wrong.  It's doing just fine and, in the case of software, better than other products.  Of course, I'm sure you knew that anyway.

No I'm not wrong, MS annouced that Kinect sold 8 million at the end of december, and as for sports champions it's not always bundled unlike kinect adventures so the compairson isn't fair, it's like if I compared Heavy Rains sales to Dance central, and again kinect is constantly dropping and it's not going to go back up and it was advertised more then anything pretty much ever with that much advertising it better sell that much 

8 million shipped, not sold.  VGC had end of Dec sales at just over 7 million.  If you're not using VGC numbers then where are you getting the figure for how much it has sold since then?

Also the fact other products dropped even more than Kinect did.  How do you explain the huge drop in GT5 sales? It's down 93%. 

Kinect is a periphiral not a game, for a periphiral to survive it needs legs, Kinect doesn't have legs, it will keep droping and thats pretty much all there is to it 

 

Edgeoflife said:

Kinect sold like 8 million in less then 2 months, since then it hasn't even sold 1 million more thats a drop off of over 80% nothing else dropped off even close to that much 

So what did you mean by "nothing else"?  Give me a comparison.

Hardware 


PS3 dropped 68%, Kinect dropped 75% from Dec to Jan.  That's not even close?



Edgeoflife on 13 February 2011
daroamer said:
Edgeoflife said:
daroamer said:
Edgeoflife said:
daroamer said:
Edgeoflife said:
daroamer said:
Edgeoflife said:

Kinect sold like 8 million in less then 2 months, since then it hasn't even sold 1 million more thats a drop off of over 80% nothing else dropped off even close to that much 

You sure about that?  Let's take a look:

In Dec Kinect sold - 3,964,263

In Dec PS3 sold - 3,087,016

Kinect Jan - 993,875 (25% of what it sold in Dec)

PS3 Jan - 992,692 (32% of what it sold in Dec)

Hardly a huge difference.  Of course, we're talking consoles vs an add-on that just launched so let's compare to something else:

From launch until end of Dec Kinect sold - 7,171,194

For the same period GT5 (PS3s biggest exclusive) sold - 5,076,495

Also Sports Champions (bundles with Move in many places) sold - 1,970,461

Now let's look at January sales:

Kinect - 993,875 (13.8% of what it had sold total up until that point)

GT5 - 337,178 (7.4% of what it had sold up until that point)

Sports Champions - 176,313 (8% of what it had sold up until that point)

===========

So no, you're wrong.  It's doing just fine and, in the case of software, better than other products.  Of course, I'm sure you knew that anyway.

No I'm not wrong, MS annouced that Kinect sold 8 million at the end of december, and as for sports champions it's not always bundled unlike kinect adventures so the compairson isn't fair, it's like if I compared Heavy Rains sales to Dance central, and again kinect is constantly dropping and it's not going to go back up and it was advertised more then anything pretty much ever with that much advertising it better sell that much 

8 million shipped, not sold.  VGC had end of Dec sales at just over 7 million.  If you're not using VGC numbers then where are you getting the figure for how much it has sold since then?

Also the fact other products dropped even more than Kinect did.  How do you explain the huge drop in GT5 sales? It's down 93%. 

Kinect is a periphiral not a game, for a periphiral to survive it needs legs, Kinect doesn't have legs, it will keep droping and thats pretty much all there is to it 

 

Edgeoflife said:

Kinect sold like 8 million in less then 2 months, since then it hasn't even sold 1 million more thats a drop off of over 80% nothing else dropped off even close to that much 

So what did you mean by "nothing else"?  Give me a comparison.

Hardware 


PS3 dropped 68%, Kinect dropped 75% from Dec to Jan.  That's not even close?

PS3s sales will get adjusted up, they always do



daroamer on 13 February 2011
Edgeoflife said:

PS3s sales will get adjusted up, they always do

And you know Kinect won't how?

Wii Dec - 5,169,876
Wii Jan - 1,063,030
Dropped 80%

Wii Fit Plus Dec - 2,101,796
Wii Fit Plus Jan - 587,835
Dropped 73%

Kinect dropped 75%.

Both hardware, Wii dropped more than Kinect did, Wii Fit Plus dropped almost the same.

You're not very good at this.