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Pachter pisses people off again, does this piss you off?

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ramses01 said:
Pavolink said:
ramses01 said:
badgenome said:

Pachter has been pushing for this for a while now, actually. Almost as long as he has been banging on about Wii HD.

And in both cases he is correct.  N should have released a Wii HD and COD should be subscription based given it's popularity and longevity.

He predict days ago that Wii will win the holiday, and without the Wii HD


How is that relevant to the discussion?  N has unnecessarily surrended their momentum. That is the issue. 

He contradicted himself. Wii is still selling good, like this week or black friday.



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Way to much free content? A 6-8 HOUR GAME IS NOT WORTH 65 DOLLARS JACK ASS.



I sort of wonder what he's going to say next. Here's some ideas:

1.Video game prices are too low. Microsoft and Sony should mandate video game prices to be $100 in the next generation to punish customers for piracy.

2. Everything in a game should have to be bought separately as DLC. Want more than 1 level? 10 bucks. Want another weapon? 5 bucks. 

3. Video games are in decline because Nintendo releases too many Mario games. Nintendo needs to stop making Mario games forever.

4. If the next Guitar Hero has 10 instruments bundled with it, it will revive the music genre.



ramses01 said:
Pavolink said:
ramses01 said:
badgenome said:

Pachter has been pushing for this for a while now, actually. Almost as long as he has been banging on about Wii HD.

And in both cases he is correct.  N should have released a Wii HD and COD should be subscription based given it's popularity and longevity.

He predict days ago that Wii will win the holiday, and without the Wii HD


How is that relevant to the discussion?  N has unnecessarily surrended their momentum. That is the issue. 

They surrended momentum when they relied on player made content. What he said is relevant because they are going to make more money off the Wii than they would WiiHD. if they did a WiiHd it would cost more the games would cost more for them to make etc etc. In the end they would be losing money and saleing the same if not less. This is like saying the HD twins should release a new console because they need to put in _____. They dont they are all doing well. It would be a waste of research advertising etc. People did not buy the Wii because it is Nintendo they buy for what it has to offer.

Ofcourse then you have to wonder why they are bringing out the 3DS when DS is still flying off the shelves. I guess it would be the number years its been on the market? I do believe they have said before that when they can no longer do the ideas they want on a console is also another reason.



RolStoppable said:

Online subscription fees wouldn't affect the games I play, so I have no reason to be upset.

Just you wait for when Nintendo decide to make Mario Kart Super Wii with subscription fees.

Just you wait!



                            

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mortono said:

I sort of wonder what he's going to say next. Here's some ideas:

1.Video game prices are too low. Microsoft and Sony should mandate video game prices to be $100 in the next generation to punish customers for piracy.

2. Everything in a game should have to be bought separately as DLC. Want more than 1 level? 10 bucks. Want another weapon? 5 bucks. 

3. Video games are in decline because Nintendo releases too many Mario games. Nintendo needs to stop making Mario games forever.

4. If the next Guitar Hero has 10 instruments bundled with it, it will revive the music genre.

lmao



mortono said:

I sort of wonder what he's going to say next. Here's some ideas:

1.Video game prices are too low. Microsoft and Sony should mandate video game prices to be $100 in the next generation to punish customers for piracy.

2. Everything in a game should have to be bought separately as DLC. Want more than 1 level? 10 bucks. Want another weapon? 5 bucks. 

3. Video games are in decline because Nintendo releases too many Mario games. Nintendo needs to stop making Mario games forever.

4. If the next Guitar Hero has 10 instruments bundled with it, it will revive the music genre.


Great! how is he going to get paid if you say it? What will we talk about next week?



Pachter is correct.  And here's why it works.

Activision would make more money, even if they sell considerably fewer copies.  Remember that Activision only gets a slice of that $60 retail price on the box, but they get nearly ALL of their subscription, so they could make as much with 4 million players on subscription as they do currently moving 10 million copies.  So it's good for Activsion.

The players that DON'T now buy COD buy a different game instead, so it's good for others as well.  So it's good for other devs as well.

I think the only loser is the consumer who plays COD or other games that follow that lead, and perhaps MS with the double-dipping on fees.  The industry as a whole would actually likely bring in more money.



Can't we all just get along and play our games in peace?

RolStoppable said:
Games4Fun said:

Ofcourse then you have to wonder why they are bringing out the 3DS when DS is still flying off the shelves.

Software sales are way down compared to previous years, due to a lack of exciting new games and rampant piracy, especially in Europe. 3DS is supposed to solve those issues. Furthermore, Nintendo also doesn't want to give Sony any chance and aims to be in a position like Sony was with the PS2: major third party support from the get go coupled with a headstart.

Dam piracy! Makes sense why Nintendo doesnt want to bascially give Sony the perfect set up again. I do wonder how next Gen will work out. A lot of things can change. My biggest worry is everything on 3DS will be like it was with the N64 and Gamecube. Im ofcourse meaning the style of games. Though Ninty has been giving us lots of 2D platforming love on the Wii along with enjoyable 3D ones.



RolStoppable said:
Games4Fun said:

Dam piracy! Makes sense why Nintendo doesnt want to bascially give Sony the perfect set up again. I do wonder how next Gen will work out. A lot of things can change. My biggest worry is everything on 3DS will be like it was with the N64 and Gamecube. Im ofcourse meaning the style of games. Though Ninty has been giving us lots of 2D platforming love on the Wii along with enjoyable 3D ones.

I share that worry, because most developers prefer to make 3D games as soon as the hardware allows for it.


Looking at the games already announced i fear that is exactly what is going to happen.