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Yeah a sex crime against his ex-gf?  Anyway sex crimes are so handy, if you want to fuck up someone/ a company or want to know someone's location badly....Just accuse them for a sex crime ....You need no proof..   Not saying he is innoncent though..


I was going through wikileaks history their is some nice stuff ..

 

Scientology

On 7 April 2008, WikiLeaks reported receiving a letter (dated 27 March) from the Religious Technology Centre claiming ownership of several recently leaked documents pertaining to OT Levels within the Church of Scientology. These same documents were at the center of a 1994 scandal. The email stated:“ The Advanced Technology materials are unpublished, copyrighted works. Please be advised that your customer's action in this regard violates United States copyright law. Accordingly, we ask for your help in removing these works immediately from your service.

– Moxon and Kobrin[132] ”


The letter continued on to request the release of the logs of the uploader, which would remove their anonymity. WikiLeaks responded with a statement released on Wikinews stating: "in response to the attempted suppression, Wikileaks will release several thousand additional pages of Scientology material next week",[133] and did so.



 

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Lostplanet22 said:

Yeah a sex crime against his ex-gf?  Anyway sex crimes are so handy, if you want to fuck up someone/ a company or want to know someone's location badly....Just accuse them for a sex crime ....You need no proof..   Not saying he is innoncent though..


I was going through wikileaks history their is some nice stuff ..

 

Scientology

On 7 April 2008, WikiLeaks reported receiving a letter (dated 27 March) from the Religious Technology Centre claiming ownership of several recently leaked documents pertaining to OT Levels within the Church of Scientology. These same documents were at the center of a 1994 scandal. The email stated:“ The Advanced Technology materials are unpublished, copyrighted works. Please be advised that your customer's action in this regard violates United States copyright law. Accordingly, we ask for your help in removing these works immediately from your service.

– Moxon and Kobrin[132] ”


The letter continued on to request the release of the logs of the uploader, which would remove their anonymity. WikiLeaks responded with a statement released on Wikinews stating: "in response to the attempted suppression, Wikileaks will release several thousand additional pages of Scientology material next week",[133] and did so.


Because ex girlfriends have never been abused and raped.  I mean, girlfriends can't be sexually abused right?  They chose to date the person?

Seriously.  Grow up.



Kasz216 said:


Because ex girlfriends have never been abused and raped.  I mean, girlfriends can't be sexually abused right?  They chose to date the person?

Seriously.  Grow up.

It's just a pathetic attempt to try to discredit the guy. The timing is just way too convenient for the people who'd want this guy to go away.



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sapphi_snake said:
Kasz216 said:


Because ex girlfriends have never been abused and raped.  I mean, girlfriends can't be sexually abused right?  They chose to date the person?

Seriously.  Grow up.

It's just a pathetic attempt to try to discredit the guy. The timing is just way too convenient for the people who'd want this guy to go away.

Right, which is why he's avoiding questioning right... doing everything he can to not answer the charges?

If it really was a "pathetic attempt to discredit the guy" he'd go there and answer their questions.

He'd stand up to his accusers rather then hiding like a guilty man.

 

He's wanted in Sweeden.  Not Cuba.



Kasz216 said:
sapphi_snake said:
Kasz216 said:


Because ex girlfriends have never been abused and raped.  I mean, girlfriends can't be sexually abused right?  They chose to date the person?

Seriously.  Grow up.

It's just a pathetic attempt to try to discredit the guy. The timing is just way too convenient for the people who'd want this guy to go away.

Right, which is why he's avoiding questioning right... doing everything he can to not answer the charges?

If it really was a "pathetic attempt to discredit the guy" he'd go there and answer their questions.

He'd stand up to his accusers rather then hiding like a guilty man.

They're most likely gonna make=up evidence against him. These are powerfull people after all.

Plus, when exactly were the charges against him pressed? Was it imediately after the alledged sexual assault took place?



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

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sapphi_snake said:
Kasz216 said:
sapphi_snake said:
Kasz216 said:


Because ex girlfriends have never been abused and raped.  I mean, girlfriends can't be sexually abused right?  They chose to date the person?

Seriously.  Grow up.

It's just a pathetic attempt to try to discredit the guy. The timing is just way too convenient for the people who'd want this guy to go away.

Right, which is why he's avoiding questioning right... doing everything he can to not answer the charges?

If it really was a "pathetic attempt to discredit the guy" he'd go there and answer their questions.

He'd stand up to his accusers rather then hiding like a guilty man.

They're most likely gonna make=up evidence against him. These are powerfull people after all.

Plus, when exactly were the charges against him pressed? Was it imediately after the alledged sexual assault took place?

 Yes they were both RIGHT after the sexual assualts.   3 days later and then 6 days later.

They issued an arrest warrant, then it got canceled and then it got reissued as new evidence came out.


As for it being a "setup by the government"

The people who are suspected to be the victims are radical feminists.   Not exactly the type to get in with the government.

It's pure and simple "Blame the victim"  defense mentality combined with conspiracy theories.

It makes me sick.



I mean, I dunno. 

I think a conspiracy group could come up then a better crime then date rape without a condom.  As sad as it is, a lot of people don't even think it's rape if you "start" with a girl and then she tells you to stop because you don't have a condom.

 

If this was some government group they'd pick something hugely damaging like child molestation.  

Or hacking child porn onto his computer, getting a warrant to check his computer for some copyright infringements based on some leaked documents with copyrights and then busting him for the illegally downloaded child porn.

 

A LOT of people sadly wouldn't even see it as that big a deal, I doubt he'd serve much if any time, and probably just have to pay a fine.

(Of course i'm guessing maybe a lot of people here haven't even bothered to look into what the charges were or the facts of the case were before crying "SETUP!")



Kasz216 said:

 Yes they were both RIGHT after the sexual assualts.   3 days later and then 6 days later.

They issued an arrest warrant, then it got canceled and then it got reissued as new evidence came out.


As for it being a "setup by the government"

The people who are suspected to be the victims are radical feminists.   Not exactly the type to get in with the government.

It's pure and simple "Blame the victim"  defense mentality combined with conspiracy theories.

It makes me sick.

Hmmm, the guy is being accused of rape by 2 radical feminists? That in itself is suspicious.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

sapphi_snake said:
Kasz216 said:

 Yes they were both RIGHT after the sexual assualts.   3 days later and then 6 days later.

They issued an arrest warrant, then it got canceled and then it got reissued as new evidence came out.


As for it being a "setup by the government"

The people who are suspected to be the victims are radical feminists.   Not exactly the type to get in with the government.

It's pure and simple "Blame the victim"  defense mentality combined with conspiracy theories.

It makes me sick.

Hmmm, the guy is being accused of rape by 2 radical feminists? That in itself is suspicious.


How?  He met both of these women at his speeches.  Can't imagine too many moderates or conservatives show up.

It shows a consistant pattern of him getting women to agree to consesnual sex with a condom... and them him taking it off against their will mid way through.

What about that is particualarly hard to believe....

or even more importantly, what part of that is supposed to be so damaging that it's worth a setup?

 

Honestly, your hopeless if you can't see through your own wishes on this.



Kasz216 said:

I mean, I dunno. 

I think a conspiracy group could come up then a better crime then date rape without a condom.  As sad as it is, a lot of people don't even think it's rape if you "start" with a girl and then she tells you to stop because you don't have a condom.

 

If this was some government group they'd pick something hugely damaging like child molestation.  

Or hacking child porn onto his computer, getting a warrant to check his computer for some copyright infringements based on some leaked documents with copyrights and then busting him for the illegally downloaded child porn.

 

A LOT of people sadly wouldn't even see it as that big a deal, I doubt he'd serve much if any time, and probably just have to pay a fine.

Maybe they're going with a less outrageous WTF approach, that could seem too much like a set up.

Also, considering the rape charges, women make up things like this all the time. My mom has a friend who seriously hurt hurself and went to the police to press charges against him. She did this in order to blackmail him into not leaving her, else she'd use this incident to get sole custody of their child (which is sad, considering that she tried to kill the kid, and her husband didn't report that to the police). Women can sure be crazy.

Considering those women describe themselves as radical feminists... I don't know, that seems suspicious for several reasons.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)