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1) Can you be more specific?  You mean move in a 3D world like an FPS?  Because most of the games are allowing you to move your entire body in a 3D world.  For example in Kinect Sports you are running your 3D character using your entire body and in volleyball you can move and you can hit in 3D.  So you will need to be a little more detailed here.

2)  The move wouldn't work right if the ball could not be seen.  I am talking about head  tracking with PSeye wouldn't work without light.  The move on it's own cannot do serious head tracking, but the PSeye can do the traditional fake 2D head tracking and it's not as good, you need to be closer to the camera and it needs proper lighting to make it work.

3)  Kinect has only just launched this month.  You have to give it time.  Milo and Kate will probably be out by next Christmas and that is only going to be the first title of that technology being used. 

     December 4th, Kinect will have been out in 30 days in America and that is not a very long time.  More things are due to be anounced on December 12th, and E3 next year.  For goodness sake give it a little time.  You are judging an entire platform based on less than 30 days on release as far as software goes and that isn't very fair at all.

    Dance Central is a launch title that a lot of people love and so is Kinect Sports and then for the kids you have Kinectimals which will probably have a sequal next year.  A lot of people love these titles.  Then you have some of the kinect fitness games which can measure body parts and give you real stats in realtime and that also is impressive as you can't cheat.



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"My biggest problem with Kinect is that i don't really want to play a game standing up or moving around. I want to sit on my bed, chill, and play with a controller. Honestly, this is the way most all gamers will always play their games. There is just no way you can stand there and play soccer for more than an hour. Now Halo, that can go on for days on end. "

    Well next year there will be games with a kinect controller hybrid.  So basically you can use your voice to send out commands and you can also use your hands or your head to do things.  The launch titles that Kinect can do the quickest for the masses is what Microsoft has been focusing on, but next year you will probably see a price drop and plus new games that have different ways to play for the hardcore.



"That may be the crappiest list of games I've ever seen."

  So you have played them all huh?  Wow, even before a lot of them are even on the market.

  If you know anything you will know that most people love the games that have just launched with kinect such as

  Kinect Sports, Dance Central, Kinectamals, and Your Shape: Fitness Evolved,

  Then soon we will get awesome stuff like

Child of Eden (check out the youtube videos of this awesome game using kinect) - Friggin awesome


 Then some of the Japan games have to be good at least out of all of these:

Codename D

Haunt

Project Draco

Rise Of Nightmares

Steel Battalion Heavy Armor


  Then there is more that is going to be anounced at the VGA Awards (December 12th, 2010)

  then next year at E3 2011. 

  If you guys still feel the same way by Christmas 2012 then Kinect is either not for you, or you are biased against it and nothing will change your mind.



Well I already figured out two ways that Microsoft could implement for moving.

Walking on the spot. In Wii Sports you play games where you run on the spot to move. Walk on spot turn in real time. You wanna walk backwards walk backwards in place. Sure it would be annoying for playing long times but heck I'm sure it would help gamers loose weight.

Leaning. You want to move forward lean forward, want to move backward lean backwards. Use head tracking to look around. The technology is their for this to work great and it wouldn't use as much energy as walking on the spot. Microsoft knows that Kinect can do head tracking they could easily have you control your view on screen by moving your head alittle. Then backward and forward by leaning.

Infact I would love to play Halo by leaning forward or backwards and moving my head to control view. it would be awsome. You wanna jump just jump you wanna crouch crouch. It would be awsome!



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Joelcool7 said:

Well I already figured out two ways that Microsoft could implement for moving.

Walking on the spot. In Wii Sports you play games where you run on the spot to move. Walk on spot turn in real time. You wanna walk backwards walk backwards in place. Sure it would be annoying for playing long times but heck I'm sure it would help gamers loose weight.

Leaning. You want to move forward lean forward, want to move backward lean backwards. Use head tracking to look around. The technology is their for this to work great and it wouldn't use as much energy as walking on the spot. Microsoft knows that Kinect can do head tracking they could easily have you control your view on screen by moving your head alittle. Then backward and forward by leaning.

Infact I would love to play Halo by leaning forward or backwards and moving my head to control view. it would be awsome. You wanna jump just jump you wanna crouch crouch. It would be awsome!

there is running on track and field games in kinect sports.

 

The people who are criticising Kinect seem to be doing it from afar and not actually played it it seems



 

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daroamer said:
homer said:

No, I have not seen such a trailer. Doesn't sound  very good.

I linked it earlier.

I'll quote what you said again:

"Ok, you want to play dress up and pretend your an actor in a movie. Be my guest. Too bad, there is nothing announced or available for the Kinect that will allow you to do so. There also will never be one for the Kinect, and you can quote me on that. Where are your facts btw? Wait.... there are none. :("

And here it is - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m31qhNJkiI

And here is Leonard Nimoy playing it - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qD1_SpAr-tY

"For example take Heavy rain, make it multiplayer, allow more interaction in the game using gestures and voice and actually acting like a character in a movie and then using the cloud to update the game data over time (for example the voice recognition).

   You can't really do this with your entire body with the move and you can get these kinds of interactive experiences with the move."

Pfft thats been done already using that other camera for the 360. Does "your in the movies" ring a bell? I still see no game promising the features you described. Doesn't the move use a camera making this possible? Surely it cannot be that hard to do if they were able to do so with the other xbox 360 camera. The only way that game you showed would be worth buying, is if it included the entirety of those movies. Come back when you have a game with those promised features, and not just reenacting, and ruining classic films.



"Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth." -My good friend Mark Aurelius

No, there has never been anything done like what I am talking about.  Using your voice to interact with characters on the screen and solving puzzles with your fingers (close up to the TV) and using your hands to do things in game and using the cloud to update the voice recognition and emotions in the game.

All of this is possible with kinect and no a 2D camera can't do all of this in realtime using your body and fingers in 3D to interact with the game.

The PSeye is an upgraded web cam from the eyetoy and it can't see you in the dark and it can't see your body in 3D and it can't give you proper computer vision that is why you need a 3D camera.

This isn't seaman for the Dreamcast, this is entirely different and innovative and yes it would be game that is interactive and you help the virtual person through the game.