I don't think people realize the amount of polygons and algorithms, and mathmatical processing power is going into the calculations of lighting reflecting of the car and window and bouncing between this and that...  and the raindrops that were made to be calculated to the most unbelievable realism with movement of the car....not to mention the most sophisticated physics engine yet (requiring tens of thousands of calculations).... These each take up some ps3 power.

Given the fact that the creator knows people love gt5 for its cars... they put almost too much effort and detail into the cars....They spent perhaps too much time emphasizing on these small accuracies of these cars... whereas less attention went to the environment and other aspects of the game...The spread of processing power, if created by other game companies, could be different between all of them... this creator focused on realistic cars, realistic driving.

This seems to be the main, arguable issue with this game... the  uneven spread of attention, to all aspects of the game.

that being said... playing on a 1080p, good brand television... This is the most realistic, accurate driving simulation to date.

Of course you'd take anything that is even a tad against anything 360 as a way to attack it. You missed the point entirely.

The important stuff (premium cars, track etc.) look good. You've got to remember this game needs to run at 1080P, 60 fps and with up to 16 cars on the track. Some of the background textures could be improved and some anti-alising on the shadows would go a long way, but when racing you really don't notice. Haven't tried out a wet race yet so can't comment on that.

Of course you'd take anything that is even a tad against anything 360 as a way to attack it. Relax bro, I own a 360 and don't look to hate on it. In this case, however, I prefer the package offered in GT5, and I used to own Forza 3. I didn't dislike it, I just know what I'm getting in GT5 has more to offer my $60. Whether it's "better" or not remains to be determined.

The fact that it's on the 360 is irrelevant. I've played FM3 quite extensively and calling it that is an attempt to diminish what it is, especially considering it has more tracks, locations, and fully modelled cars than GT5 does. Now, go ahead and explain that comparison.

does forza3 have a track editor? /scratchs head

don't even know what you mean by fully modeled cars, you will need to explain that one.

GT5 has 200 'premium' cars, which have detailed car models, interiors, and the ability to modify the cars. The rest are 'standard' and have lower detail models (most of them being the same model as gt4), they lack interiors, damage and the ability to modify/upgrade them.