radishhead said:
Hephaestos said:
radishhead said:
I hate to bring this up again, but I hardly lied - I merely exaggerated. Not that it makes a difference, because I'm not the last Mafia - I therefore KNOW that it's one of you two.
It's true that I haven't been contributing much in the last couple of days, but that's mainly because at this late stage of the game, everything that has been lynchable so far has resulted in a lynch - if you know what I mean. For example, we were stretching the "Mafia-tells" a bit with Homer, but we don't even have things like that to go on now. It it's happened, then the person responsible is already dead. The only reason that we've made it this far is through a combination of luck and acting calmly/thinking carefully. Townies have to think about what they say, or they get lynched or night-killed if they may know too much.
Obviously, this is more difficult for the Mafia, who have to get themselves into the mentality of a Townie - and this gets more difficult as the game goes on. I know that it's already been commented that I was "sucking up" to the Mafia with another comment like this, but it's true - the remaining Mafia is clearly an experienced player that has played a lot of games of Mafia. One that has not made any mistakes thus far, and managed to stay under the radar for a very long time. As a fairly clumsy Mafia player, I believe that it's natural for Townies to make mistakes - because they're not trying to act like town; they ARE town. A more experienced player playing as a Mafia would be so focused on not making any mistakes, that I believe that it would lead to his downfall.
I therefore propose that we lynch the person who has played a game that seems almost too perfect to believe. It's a risky strategy, but the thought behind it makes sense. I haven't checked the posts yet, but I'm fairly certain that Heph has fallen under this category during this game. No mistakes; managed to keep suspicion off him 100%.
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1) I've been "praising" your renewed activity in the past 2 days... saying it was actually a bit odd that you didn't participate before yet it was welcome that now you did.... and now you're saying that you're currently not participating as much as before? are you trying to downplay the fact that you actually can play normally? you spent half the game doing one liners, this above post is probably as long as all you posted between the end of day one and the lynch of FF and you sure know this as i've said it many times already.
2) "townies have to think about what they say, or they get lynched or night-killed if they may know too much".
wait what? townies get lynched for knowing too much??? OK slates clean for last day, possible slip up here. FoS Radish
3)ooh reverse psychology, nice... that's fitting for you since both of us have little to argue against us ^^, but it also shows you didn't pay all that much attention this game. Some townies died because of us, heck FF only got voted on by trucks and I (oh but it's true, you said you'd share the blame....).
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1) I have definitely made posts of higher quality of the last couple of days, but I haven't been posting as often either.
2) Another typical townie "mistake" that I pointed out in my speech xD By this I meant people like Stefl, who would obviously have been a threat to the Mafia with their knowledge of who's who. This is actually the only example that I had in mind, but I wanted my speech to sound good :)
3) The fact that you got innocents lynched was merely bad judgement, not mistakes. :P The Mafia is allowed to do that, because ultimately - they're trying to spread bad judgement around the place.
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1) yeah and that's part of why i'm wary of you actually... you downplayed your game purposfully.
2) There is just no way stefl would have been lynched, heck if he was the mafia i'd have been glad to lose that way, it would have been a brilliant gamble on his part, but no we just have people chilling arround looking suspiciously at each other ^^
3) Wait... so what's a mistake by a townie? saying something scummy? sure but that doesn't necessarely affect the game... but a real mistake is like the example of the zombie game where the guy didn't know he was a bad guy and for a townie, to get an other townie lynched... these affect the game.
now for serious stuff as I believe enough discution went through for you to make your case.
I was kind of testing your a bit today (yesterday too but I didn't know for sure about stefl to be honest). There's 90% chance Trucks is town for sure... 10% he didn't want to look scummy taking a gamble.. but it was an easy one, I even pointed it out to him:
If trucks were the mafia, letting the double lynch FF/Heph go on would have secured his victory (nightkill was all he needed afterwards). Yet he voted with 1 hour left (knowingly), so letting it go would have been just a tiny gamble, one he could have taken easily by just idling...This is combined with the fact that besides your comment during twilight, you delayed your input and didn't show much alarm at the double lynch. So yes, there is still a little room of him being mafia and having just been scared of appearing too scumy after my remark on the double lynch and Hat saying there was 1 hour left... but again, that was an easy gamble he could have made by just idling...
Now your speech today didn't particularly convince me in your favor, but yes, you didn't attack trucks or me strongly... so i'm at 80%, not 100% (docked 10 as trucks was a bit wierd on stefl yesterday... but I had suspicions too so...). Still my vote is pretty much secured to your cause as I believe this evidence to be too strong in truck's favor.
Vote Radish
