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PS3>360 gap in Japan almost cancels 360>PS3 gap in Americas for the year

PS3's favor in Japan 81 41.75%
 
360's favor in Americas 86 44.33%
 
Virtual tie (within 10k) 27 13.92%
 
Total:194
deskpro2k3 on 18 November 2010

this is getting better and better every year



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A203D on 18 November 2010
ethomaz said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Also, look at the attach ratios.

X360 3,994,325 (-8%) 403,012,359 (9.01)
Wii 3,969,294 ( 6%) 534,271,896 (7.06)
DS 2,706,330 ( 10%) 593,972,684 (4.36)
PS3 2,186,911 (-26%) 285,685,643 (6.99)

The 360 has the best of any console. Most notably for our discussion, 9.01 on the 360 vs 6.99 on the PS3.

It's not true... a lot of games are undertracked or with no sales in PS3... 360 is always more accurate in VGC.

And Microsoft said last time that attch rate was 8.8 for 360 and Sony 8.1 for PS3... so why VGC put 9.01 for 360 and 7.06 for PS3.

OP. 360's favor in Americas.

I too am curious about this, i've heard the software is undertraked also, but how could they find out what is undertracked....



ethomaz on 18 November 2010
A203D said:
ethomaz said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Also, look at the attach ratios.

X360 3,994,325 (-8%) 403,012,359 (9.01)
Wii 3,969,294 ( 6%) 534,271,896 (7.06)
DS 2,706,330 ( 10%) 593,972,684 (4.36)
PS3 2,186,911 (-26%) 285,685,643 (6.99)

The 360 has the best of any console. Most notably for our discussion, 9.01 on the 360 vs 6.99 on the PS3.

It's not true... a lot of games are undertracked or with no sales in PS3... 360 is always more accurate in VGC.

And Microsoft said last time that attch rate was 8.8 for 360 and Sony 8.1 for PS3... so why VGC put 9.01 for 360 and 7.06 for PS3.

OP. 360's favor in Americas.

I too am curious about this, i've heard the software is undertraked also, but how could they find out what is undertracked....

A lot of software sales on PS3 was in emerging markets like Brazil, Asia and Middle East... and VGC didn't track accurate these markets... God of War III sold over 100k copies here.

The last adjustments on PS3 Hardware came from  Asia and Middle East by a report from Nintento... but Nintento didn't report software sales... so no adjustments on games.

Wii and 360 sold a lot less on these markets... so the accuracy is better with them.



eliasg on 19 November 2010

imo, everything depents on Kinect success . 



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DitchPlaya on 19 November 2010

Its not exactly much of an achievement having to use Japan to beat MS worldwide...



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A_C_E on 20 November 2010
DitchPlaya said:

Its not exactly much of an achievement having to use Japan to beat MS worldwide...

Your right, it's much more of an achievement to have success in all territories. Though it looks as though Kinect may give enough boost for 360 to outsell PS3 for one or two (GT5) weeks in Japan.



johnglen on 20 November 2010
A_C_E said:
DitchPlaya said:

Its not exactly much of an achievement having to use Japan to beat MS worldwide...

Your right, it's much more of an achievement to have success in all territories. Though it looks as though Kinect may give enough boost for 360 to outsell PS3 for one or two (GT5) weeks in Japan.

Except that the ps3 is , somewhat ,succesfull only in Europe. The fact that it's not on xbox360-levels of failure in Japan doesn't make it a success there (5.7 million sold in 4 full years in your home territory is not success)  and it's definately not succesful in the U.S being a very distant third. All this for the succesor of the PLAYSTATION 2, mind you.

As for the question of this thread let's wait until we get the December reults from both the U.S and Japan (NPD&Media Create) and we'll see what cancels what....



A_C_E on 20 November 2010
johnglen said:
A_C_E said:
DitchPlaya said:

Its not exactly much of an achievement having to use Japan to beat MS worldwide...

Your right, it's much more of an achievement to have success in all territories. Though it looks as though Kinect may give enough boost for 360 to outsell PS3 for one or two (GT5) weeks in Japan.

Except that the ps3 is , somewhat ,succesfull only in Europe. The fact that it's not on xbox360-levels of failure in Japan doesn't make it a success there (5.7 million sold in 4 full years in your home territory is not success)  and it's definately not succesful in the U.S being a very distant third. All this for the succesor of the PLAYSTATION 2, mind you.

As for the question of this thread let's wait until we get the December reults from both the U.S and Japan (NPD&Media Create) and we'll see what cancels what....

You don't have to finish first to be successful, if that were the case the 360 is a MASSIVE failure compared to its competition just as much as PS3 or any other sales product. When you factor in what the PS3 has been through that absolutely countered the brand recognition that PS2 brought for it. It may not have started successfully and only just bloomed in Europe in late 2007 but to say it's only been successful in Europe when it has consistently outsold it's competition in Japan for almost a year now and completely bounced back outselling it's competition for many weeks in their biggest territories throughout the year...I wouldn't call that 'somewhat' successful, more like succeeding with 2011 right around the corner.



Reach on 20 November 2010

Ps3 is "doomed" to 3rd place in NA justl ike 360 is "Doomed" to 3rd Place in Japan.

Americas are stronger than Japan and if Xbox takes December over there by like 2.5M than Japan wont save Ps3 only by a miracle.

Xbox sells more in December in U.S than it sells in Japan since launched.



NotStan on 20 November 2010
Eddie_Raja said:
NotStan said:
Eddie_Raja said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Eddie_Raja said:
Mr Puggsly said:
A_C_E said:

And who said Japan doesn't matter?

Me.

They have the worst attach ratios. Part of the reason why Xbox 360 software sales are significantly higher.

Also, they have generally horrible taste in games. Hence, they keep supporting horrible games.


Troll much?  Yeah because Halo and Gears are good taste compared to GT5, FF, Metal Gear Solid, and Demon's Souls....ROFLMAO!!!

Oh yeah, I'd rather play Gears and Halo than any of those.

But for what its worth... those are the tolerable Japanese games. You can tell because they sold well in the west.


Tolerable? Ok....I guess we will just have to agree to disagree...You can go play your generic gorefests!


And half of those games on the list that you've mentioned have either a) Already came out on 360, b) Coming out on 360, the other half are restricted by the fact that they develop primarily for Sony.. You go off to name a whole range of different games yet fail to mention the great exclusives that 360 offers too, Fable, Mass Effect series(Which are now coming to PS3)  to name a few..

I was talking about japanese games vs American.  Don't be too much of a fanboy!  Look I already have ME1&2 on the PC (It is better than on 360), so the fact that it is coming to PS3 doesn't really excite me that much if at all.  I'm not saying Japan>America, I'm saying both countries make great games and that some of the most highly regarded titles are Japanse;thus it's stupid to insult Japan's ability to make games!

Wow did you seriously just call me a fanboy? Hypocrisy is thy name.. And I provided you with the examples of the American games that are just as great or are no par with the Japan.. Unless you haven't realised the games that I've mentioned are WRPGs, and most of the games that are made in Japan.. Sell better in Japan, with the exception of GT, MGS, Pokemon and FF I really struggle to remember the cases when a Japanese game under other names had proven to be such a succesful seller in comparison with them, don't go mudslinging, by calling me a fanboy you effectively prove your worth :/



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