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Lost tears of Kain on 12 December 2007
ChronotriggerJM said:
eugene said:
This is actually a response to all those "Halo Sux!!" "Pc fps games are miles better than Halo" blah blah blah.

 It will NEVER be justified in the eyes of those not willing to see it. It's kind of funny, every time a Halo argument comes up there's about 9 million reasons why it sucks, and none that support it. Honestly if Halo's that great why do so many people apparently hate it? As far as I know Counterstrike, Half Life, and Battlefield are all HIGHLY recommended games which no one talks shit about. Coincidence? NO. STOP DILUTING YOURSELF, PLAY GOOD GAMES DAMNIT >< Maybe one day you really will see that Halo is the definition of BASIC, it's the reason it's accessible to so many people, NOT because it's good. Please don't confuse the two.


Just ERRRRRRRRRRRRRR

I cant beleive you have your signiture like that then post this. Who all hates it? This community is not a represenation of all gamers, NO forum is accurate.

Ill talk shit about half life, i rented the orange box and absolutley disliked it. I hated the shooting aspects, the art sytle (bleh) and everything about it (story seemed decent never finished cause i didnt like it ). I really disliked team fortress and thought it has nothing on any online mult.

Just........you have opinion in your signiture yet you state that halo is basic as a FACT. No its not its ALL opinions. I really REALLY love halo, i think its by far one of the best FPS ive ever played. Is it a fact its the best, of course not, its my opinion, just like your opinion is halo is basic. Theres a DIFFERENCE between facts and opinions dont confuse the two.



                 With regard to Call of Duty 4 having an ultra short single player campaign, I guess it may well have been due to the size limitations of DVD on the XBox 360, one of various limitations multi-platform game designers will have to take into consideration-Mike B   

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Game trailers-Halo 3 only dissapointed the people who wanted to be dissapointed.

Bet with Harvey Birdman that Lost Odyssey will sell more then Blue dragon did.
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Lost tears of Kain on 12 December 2007
eugene said:
naznatips said:
And I'm sorry eugene but have you ever stopped to wonder why you've never met a PC gamer who thinks Halo is special? Did you ever wonder why the game ranks a 70% on PC while it's over 90% on the Xbox despite the PC version having more features? It's obviously not some hatred of it not being on our console since both Halo and Halo 2 are available on PC.

It's because they are simply years behind PC FPS games. We've been playing games like System Shock 2, Half-Life series, Unreal Tournament series, Quake series, etc. for years. A full decade before the release of Halo 2 PC FPSes were offering more complex gameplay and a better, much more fleshed out, online system. We STILL have a better online system through Steam for absolutely free along with a better digital distribution system than Xbox Live has.

In fact, Microsoft is now trying to encroach on us with their bullshit Windows Live crap that no one is buying because it's absolutely ridiculous to expect PC users to pay $50 a year for far less features than we get with Steam for free. Halo is a great CONSOLE FPS series, but it simply doesn't offer anything for PC gamers that we can't get better elsewhere. I think Halo 3 is a great shooter... for the 360.  Just like I think Metroid Prime Hunters is a great shooter for the Nintendo DS.  It's great for the platform it's on, but it's just not comparable to games on the PC. 

Actually I havent wondered that. Most of the games mentioned above for fantastic PC games have appeared in one form or another on the Xbox platform also. Ive played most of them and dont feel they are uber superior either. Half Life and Half Life 2 to me was a bore fest as I just wanted to kick ass and felt restricted. But yes, the in game story telling was great. Review scores have nothing to do with how much a game is actually liked. Look at the great sales for games that failed critically but are commercial hits like Carnival games and Mario Party 8 and Im sure the people playing them love it.Your observing everything from a hardcore pc gamers perspective. Not everyone looks at things in that tunnel vision. Halo and Halo 2 are for the most part casual pc games that anyone can pick up and play and have fun with without ever having played a fps game in their life. What a fanatic UT player thinks is great does not sway my opinion on how I view games or the majority of casual gamers. Its hard to convince someone having fun that in reality, their not really having fun because you believe somthing is so so so so much better. Halo games are fun and thats all it was ever meant to be. If it wasnt, it wouldnt keep selling great with each iteration many of which were repeat buyers. If you thought Quake was the epitimamy of all games and a standard to which games should be measured, thats your opionion and Im not here to convince you that you really didnt like it.


I did not like half life either. Decent post eugene.

In all its opinions, and peoples opinions are not fact. Reviews are not facts on how well a game can be loved by someone.



                 With regard to Call of Duty 4 having an ultra short single player campaign, I guess it may well have been due to the size limitations of DVD on the XBox 360, one of various limitations multi-platform game designers will have to take into consideration-Mike B   

Proud supporter of all 3 console companys

Proud owner of 360wii and DS/psp              

Game trailers-Halo 3 only dissapointed the people who wanted to be dissapointed.

Bet with Harvey Birdman that Lost Odyssey will sell more then Blue dragon did.
Lost tears of Kain on 12 December 2007
Auron said:
Halo 1, 2 and 3 suck. They are horrible games. As long as you keep making topics about how Halo is your God then expect people to counter them.

Horrible horrible post. If you want respect, actually post something decent.



                 With regard to Call of Duty 4 having an ultra short single player campaign, I guess it may well have been due to the size limitations of DVD on the XBox 360, one of various limitations multi-platform game designers will have to take into consideration-Mike B   

Proud supporter of all 3 console companys

Proud owner of 360wii and DS/psp              

Game trailers-Halo 3 only dissapointed the people who wanted to be dissapointed.

Bet with Harvey Birdman that Lost Odyssey will sell more then Blue dragon did.
scorptile on 12 December 2007
naznatips said:

Nielson company has no valid measure of tracking play time for games, so they take surveys and then apply a multiplier. Basically survey tracking is about as accurate as Amazon.

The fact that they think the Xbox is more played than the Xbox 360 is laughable, and as a PC gamer looking at servers I can tell you that Starcraft still constantly has more people online than Halo. So does WC3. Halo servers are very low populated for an FPS, and sales data from Microsoft says it only sold a couple million units, which is far below many PC games like SC and WC3. I seriously doubt any of this data is accurate.


 dont forget the 5-8 million counterstrike players playing worldwide at any given moment. halo was good for a month then all the servers emptied and no one cared about it anymore. i still have the game but it isnt worth playing like CS is



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Talented Fool on 12 December 2007

this list bugs the crap out of me. How is Halo 2, a game available only on Vista, which hasn't sold well, getting more player hours than counterstrike? It boggles the mind.

Also, there is nothing contradictory about PC gamers saying Halo is crap. You said it yourself, the Halo gamers are casual pc games. Casual players have not played as many PC FPS games. They dont usually have another game to compare it too. If they're going to get something, most likely they'll get the game most advertised. If you haven't played many FPS games Halo must seem like the shit. It is the PC gamers who have played many different kinds of PC FPS games that think Halo is crap.



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miasma23 on 12 December 2007

There is a point here which i feel needs to be made............

The neilson rating system determined that Star Trek was a loser, so the canned it after only three seasons. hmmmmmmmmmmmm



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NintendoTogepi on 12 December 2007
BenKenobi88 said:

No, NintendoTogepi, I believe it. There's lots of casual PC gamers that just play Sims or Halo.

And they do samplings of households to see what TV shows are watched, and now what consoles are played.  One of my friends participated...they put a box on the TV to track what was watched for like a week or whatever.

Actually, I'm a sims player. How could Sims 2 be lower? It only sold like 4-5 million less and is far more recent.

I still don't believe the list at all. 

 



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chuckd on 12 December 2007
NintendoTogepi said:

Top 10 PC Game Titles in the U.S.
Apr-Nov 2007
2. The Sims
7. The Sims 2

Lol so wrong.

The Sims sells practically nothing now, and I don't believe that Halo is that high.

The list is WRONG.

Edit:

Wait, is this a most played list? If so, how the heck can they possibly know that people play the PS2 more then the GameCube? Seriously? I'm really wondering how. Do they have cameras in our houses?

How do they know people play The Sims over The Sims 2?

I don't believe ANY of this.


Well, as far as what sells what goes: The NPD Group has released the latest list of the top 10 best selling PC games in the US, this time for the week ending December 1: # 1. Call Of Duty 4: Modern Warfare - Activision # 2. Crysis - Electronic Arts # 3. The Sims 2 Teen Style Stuff - Electronic Arts # 4. World Of Warcraft - Blizzard # 5. The Sims 2 Bon Voyage - Electronic Arts # 6. The Sims 2 Deluxe - Electronic Arts # 7. Sim City 5: Societies - Electronic Arts # 8. World Of Warcraft: Battle Chest - Blizzard # 9. Half Life 2: Episode 2 The Orange Box - Valve/EA # 10. Nancy Drew: Legend Of The Crystal Skull - Her Interactive It should be noted that WoW and the Sims have dominated sales ever since they were released.

Morgyn on 12 December 2007

Sim City 5 is out?! how the hell did I miss that?



Nintendownsmii on 12 December 2007

Number 1 problem with Neilsen: How many americans have a PS3/Wii compared to a PS2/GC? Yeah thats probably why they are still beating the new consoles. As for the orriginal Xbox that is just downright odd.

Wait, The orange box isn't on that list? How in the hell did that happen? That should tell you it is a flawed survey right there.