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Forums - Sales - Some Early Thoughts on Kinect Performance

The Kinect bundles are probably more relevant as we get closer to Christmas. As the overall system sales pick up then the sales of the Kinect bundles ought to pick up as well. However in saying that we still haven't got any estimates back for the first week for both Kinect sales, Kinect bundles and total console sales either.



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Lets get Wii pricing correct. Currently the typical new purchaser of the Wii is spending $300 when they walk out of the store with a Wii, WiiFit and an extra WiiMote.



Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.

thx1139 said:

Lets get Wii pricing correct. Currently the typical new purchaser of the Wii is spending $300 when they walk out of the store with a Wii, WiiFit and an extra WiiMote.


Wii with

wii sports

wii sports resort

wii motion plus

-$199

360 with

4gb HDD

kinect

kinect adventuers

-$299

360 with

250GB HDD

kinect

kinect adventures

-$399

PS3 with

320GB HDD

Move

sports champions

PS eye

-$399



 

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When do you think we'll get Kinect sales ?



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leo-j said:
thx1139 said:

Lets get Wii pricing correct. Currently the typical new purchaser of the Wii is spending $300 when they walk out of the store with a Wii, WiiFit and an extra WiiMote.


Wii with

wii sports

wii sports resort

wii motion plus

-$199

360 with

4gb HDD

kinect

kinect adventuers

-$299

360 with

250GB HDD

kinect

kinect adventures

-$399

PS3 with

320GB HDD

Move

sports champions

PS eye

-$399

Looking at week after week sales it is clear that for every 2 Wii consoles sold 1 WiiFit is also sold. That is $300 for 1/2 of the Wii sales.  We also know that it is very common that people pick iup another controller.  Of course for a new 360 with Kinect purchaser for 2 people no need for 2nd controller and no need for a board for fitness games.



Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.

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daroamer said:
Jordahn said:
daroamer said:
Jordahn said:
daroamer said:

The Wii sold most of its units at the $250 price point, Xbox 360 with Kinect is $300.  $50 is not a deal breaker especially since it can also play DVDs and has HD graphics.

The market has changed.  When the Wii was $250, there was no Kinect while the Core 360 was $300.  Now, we have a base model 360 Slim with Kinect compared to a $200 Wii with two games a Motion Plus.  $300 for a base model 360 Slim with Kinect is not bad.  But in today's market there is a much bigger difference with the Wii.

I'm not making a comparison to the current Wii.  The original point was that people will spend $250 if it's a fun experience and $300 is not that big a different.  This isn't about whether they would rather spend money on the current Wii or Xbox 360, just whether the price is too much to even consider for casuals, clearly it isn't.

AGAIN, different market.  You'd be naive to buy a "new" never-been-used 5 year old plasma TV at its original price in today's market when Plasma tech has advanced while paying less for it.  Do I need to explain further?

Yes, you're missing the point.

When the TV was new and state of the art it was worth $2000 and you were willing to pay it.  You wouldn't pay $2000 for that TV now since it's no longer state of the art.  However, you would still be willing to spend $2000 an a new TV that is brand new, state of the art and way more sophisticated  with better picture and features than what you bought 5 years ago.

The amount of money you spend isn't the issue, it's what you're getting for your money.

Kinect is perceptibly way more advanced than the Wii (especially to casuals), not to mention the Xbox is way more advanced as well.  HD graphics, better sound and more features.

That is a statement that really needs to be demonstrated ...

Being that consumers did not buy into controller free gaming with the Eye-Toy, and I doubt they saw it as being "more advanced" when it was introduced years ago, and (while Kinect is newer technology) I see little evidence that attitudes have changed.



Notorius.A.i.G said:

When do you think we'll get Kinect sales ?

Between tuesday and friday most likely. It depends what Brett does. He's already unofficially said that he believes it sold 3-400k first week.



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Squilliam said:
Notorius.A.i.G said:

When do you think we'll get Kinect sales ?

Between tuesday and friday most likely. It depends what Brett does. He's already unofficially said that he believes it sold 3-400k first week.

Just in NA ? Or WW ?



Who's the best Pac, Nas, and Big. Just leave it to that.

PLAYSTATION®3 is the future.....NOW.......B_E_L_I_E_V_E

Slaughterhouse Is The Sh*t  .... NOW ........ B_E_L_I_E_V_E

thx1139 said:

Looking at week after week sales it is clear that for every 2 Wii consoles sold 1 WiiFit is also sold. That is $300 for 1/2 of the Wii sales.  We also know that it is very common that people pick iup another controller.  Of course for a new 360 with Kinect purchaser for 2 people no need for 2nd controller and no need for a board for fitness games.

These price comparisons have been 100% BS since 2006 when PS3 owners tried to show the "Value" of a $600 PS3 ... In this case in particular you're forgetting to include the actual fitness game in the price of the XBox 360.

What people price out and purchase will depend heavily on the dynamics and demographics of their own household. Some families may price out the XBox 360 elite, Kinect, 3 controllers, XBox Live for a year and a couple of games; while other gamers may just look at the Basic XBox 360 and Kinect.



Notorius.A.i.G said:
Squilliam said:
Notorius.A.i.G said:

When do you think we'll get Kinect sales ?

Between tuesday and friday most likely. It depends what Brett does. He's already unofficially said that he believes it sold 3-400k first week.

Just in NA ? Or WW ?

Just in NA. It hasn't launched in EU/JP yet.



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