Uh it's hard not to see lag when you jump at a time that feels natural to you and your character does nothing until it hits the obstacle and then jumps  You really don't have to go looking for it, it's just there, its like saying to me "you you're having to go looking for the lag in that FPS online see what you're doing wrong is you're not compensating for it, you should shoot before they stand in the place they're moving towards!" 

And Dance Central is masking it, you see that data right when you can free style?  That's actually the input the system is getting and how long it's taking for it to register, now since the game itself is all about points and movement, the game can show the movement on screen wait for you to do the movement and after the input lag register if you did the move right and give you the points, it's just like calibrating Guitar Hero for HD TV video lag, in fact I'm certain thats where they got the idea (Harmonix the makers of GH/RB), but the game is able to mask the lag because of what kind of game it is other games don't have that luxury.

Also did I say the menus didn't work? No, you're simply stating it in a way to make it look better, the menu system works, but when you don't have voice commands it's slow and somewhat cumbersome to navigate, which is what I was saying, holding one position for a few moments to bring up the menu, a few more moments to make a selection, a few more to make another, etc, then holding positions to back out of everything, it's not instant like a button.

I'm sorry I'm not going to write a glowing impressions thread of a 150 dollar device that doesn't always do what I want it do, because either the game is a bit finicky or the lag, and bottom line the menu gestures are just much slower that having a controller input, it's not improving the wheel it's making the wheel turn slower. 

@Rol

LMFAO brilliant 

Maxwell is a PS favoring individual?

I wasn't being biased, and don't assume I was, you don't know me, I gave my TRUTHFUL impressions on kinect

That's not how Dance Central works though.  As I said, it reads your moves in tandem with the person on the screen, no lag at all.  This is apparent because it gives you the score of "Flawless, Nice, etc" immediately at the end of the move sequence.  It wouldn't be able to do that if it was processing the input and scoring the points after you did the move.

The delay is only when it takes the input and has to build the visual representation and then display it.  That's why some avatar based games like Reflex Ridge and Rallyball show more lag than Dance Central, 20,000 leaks, River Rush, and Space Pop.

And as always, Kinect is not limited by its hardware.  The software behind the device will keep improving and so will the response time as a result.  That and the way the developers choose to use and process the data will also show varying differences in lag from game to game, with some being perfectly acceptable around the 100ms range, and some being closer to 200-300ms.

Yes, he is.  And yes, you were being biased.  It's not really something you can control.  When you favor one device so much more as you do, your subconcious will automatically include that bias.

And if it really was all so truthful, why did you have to edit out so much?

Yay!I'm finally accepted into the PS fans segment of the site, now I'll have popularity, power, and love!  I wonder if I can keep all consoles you know my 360, my Wii, and my DS and still be accepted though, oh choices choices.

Anyway guys thanks it took a long time to finally be accepted as PS Biased 

Lol nice picture   And you know what I meant.  I have a PS3, 360, had a Wii, DS, but I'm still not ashamed to admit I favor the 360.

I could be thinking of someone else, but I just seem to remember seeing you in more Sony threads and giving generally more positive oppinions for PS stuff than any other brand.

I have things I love on PS3, like Uncharted 1 & 2, Killzone 2, Heavy Rain, ModNation Racers, but I'd be a fool to say I don't have some inset 360 bias given how much more I tend to spend with that system.

People pay for portability.  Kinect is not about portability.  Invalid example.

I'm not really sure how one could come to the conclusion that maxwell of all people favors PlayStation.  0_o

Also, I think making inaccurate assumptions about a person in an attempt to defame their opinion on a product calls into question the assumption maker's opinion moreso than the original poster's.

This pretty much, this is largely also getting off topic so, it should stop, we can debate and discuss the issues with Kinect or you can comment on my impressions, but who one roots for is a stupid subject and it's obvious night has no idea what games I like or dislike.

I'm a Sony Fanboy. I think TheSource is an X360 fanboy, and I'm fairly sure that ioi is biased against whatever is low